21 hours normal for encoding SVCD?

[webmiester1331]

I just finished Gladiator DVD-SVCD, and it took 21 hours of TMPGEnc time! Is this normal?

[vhelp]

How'bout reducing your resolution to 352x480.
Quality will be the same - you'll be amazed, and at half YOUR encoding
time, if you don't change anything else but the res.

Try it!!

- vhelp

[webmiester1331]

Hmmm.
Sounds ok, but I'm trying to get the best out of my new DVD player.. Can anyone else verify if this looks much different?

[Kdiddy]

Depends on wha your PC specs are..AND what settings you ue in TMPG, Noise Reduction and Highest Quality adds significant time.

[bacardi/avt]

Actually I think it sounds quite short if you are using tmpg...still since you don't state your PC specs, who can tell if it good or bad.

A small reply about the reducing resulution to 352x480 comment...

Doing this makes the MPEG-2 stream noncompliant with SVCD standards which states 480x480 NTSC or 480x576 PAL (HxV). So if you are looking for a way to make SVCD outside specs this migth be a soluttion....

By the way my normal encoding time using CCE with 3-passes on a PIII 550 is about 30 Hours for a 2 hour movie (partly because I use virtualdub as a frame server and the filters slow down the process)....

[xzarkad]

I have a 1.4 Gigaherz Athlon. Standard SVCD (original template) takes me about 8 hours for a 2 hour movie. When I frameserve through Virtual Dub, and use the VobSub filter, it takes about 10 hours.

[webmiester1331]

ok, well i'm also on a 550 pentium 3. I have a GE 1101p so it's absolutely fine with XSVCDs or non-compliant i guess. What do you guys suggest for highest quality S(x)VCDs? With 90 mins, I want 2 cds.

[adamthole]

I have an athalon, 1.3 ghz, it only takes about 4 hours

[Kdiddy]

I have an Athlon XP 1500 and it only takes about 5 hours

" I have a GE 1101p so it's absolutely fine with XSVCDs or non-compliant i guess. What do you guys suggest for highest quality S(x)VCDs? With 90 mins, I want 2 cds."

O this is THE machine, I would go with 352x480 mpeg2 & combine it with 5.1 digital sound, making a XminiDVD which this player supports with easy firmware hack. You wil fall in love with this player all over again.

[webmiester1331]

ok, now you're hurting my brain
How do I keep 5 channel sound (at all) and without making it huge?

[AntnyMD]

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An MPEG-1 Audio Layer 2 (stereo) file is roughly the same size as a Dolby Digital 2.0 file. A 5.1 Dolby Digital file wouldn't be that much larger.

[squiddaddy]

Ok, so how do you remultiplex the AC3 file back in with the SVCD video track? I also have a GE1101P, and if I can keep the 5.1 audio with my SVCD's, that would be cool. Or explain what we would have to do to make a 5.1 SVCD.

Thanks.

[poopyhead]

actually, don't decrease the resolution. one of the key differences between SVCD and regular VCD is the increase in resolution for SVCD. This higher resolution is one of the main reasons for the increase in quality. also, even though resolution might make encoding time longer, it will not affect the filesize.

[Kdiddy]

No it would not be an SVCD anymore, it would be a miniDVD, or as some would say XminiDVD....w/o getting into the whole process, you would make mpeg2 video @ 352x480, as you normally would, mux it with 5.1 ac3 track strip from DVD...import into DVD authoring program, and author it in DVD format...then burn that info onto a CDR/RW, voila miniDVD, first you need to hack the firmware of the play though...in order for it to play.

[webmiester1331]

You know what? This is all too complicated. For one, I don't really want to update the firmware. Second, remuxing and stuff is too much work (well, it probably isn't, but too much for the outcome). So, in that case, can someone suggest a good template (or the settings) for a nice SVCD(NTSCFilm)? IF possible, 2 cds for a normal movie (ie 90-100 mins)

[hazchem]

ok i rung a 1.4gig amd 512mb sdram and i use the standard template for videoCD pal and it takes about 4hours to encode using tmpgenc.............. and mine all come out perfect

[webmiester1331]

we're not talking about vcds. please read before you reply.

[xzarkad]

I use the standard SVCD template. I have changed the quality from 65 to 62. For widescreen movies (with black bars) I set the maximum bitrate to 2350. This way I can store 50-60 minutes on a cd. For anamorhic movies I set the maximum bitrate to 2450. This allows me to store 45-50 minutes to an cd.

[shochan]

ok I run a athlon xp 1600 and on a 2pass vbr encode it takes me 5hrs. and when i use cce my average speed is 1.6 and max is 1.750.

[SteveDVD]

Well, If you really want to get everything you can out of you DVD player. You may just want to stick with the 21 hours. Anyways it's done now.