I'd like a nicer looking label for my dvd's

[ridgerunrbunny]

I have been using stomper, but have read of neato foil. How are they? And who sells them. Ive been buying at shop4tech because I like their payment system but have not seen any foil labels there.

Bunny

[jimmalenko]

Did you read the sticky:
https://forum.videohelp.com/viewtopic.php?t=138166

[Denvers Dawgs]

Shouldn't use stickey labels...

[ridgerunrbunny]

Didn't answer my question guys.

Bunny

[tdan]

I would guess that since most people in this forum would not even recommend using labels on DVDs, then you are going to be hard pressed to get an answer to "How is label x?"

Dan

[lordsmurf]

Your question is invalid because labels are a bad idea, period.

[rkr1958]

In my opinion the best label for DVDRs is a sharpie.

[ZippyP.]

Didn't answer my question guys.

They did but you didn't like the answer.

[Noahtuck]

I'd like a nicer looking label for my dvd's

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Better than any sticky label could ever do 8)

And if you want something that looks like a foil label for a killer hologram type effect, you just buy silver injet printable dvd's!!

[adam]

Damn if he wants to use labels than let him. ridgerunrbunny are these not the foil labels you are looking for? http://www.shop4tech.com/item1545.html

At those prices you really could justify buying an R200 printer ($40-60?) and using it to print on the disc. You probably get like 100 discs on one set of ink cartridges and they look better and are guaranteed to not cause playback problems.

The silver discs create an awesome hologram look when printed at normal contrast and look more normal as you increase the contrast. Highly recommended.

[non-linear]

Damn if he wants to use labels than let him.

You're right. If he/she/it wants to be a retard and screw up their discs with sticky labels, who are we to argue

[Wile_E]

Well not to be different, but I have about 100 CD-R's that I put white labels on. None of them have caused me problems yet. No bubbling or anything yet. I would like to use pre-labeled discs, but I can't ever find any TY MIJ or other good quality in STORES, only MIT junk. Not even Fry's has good labeled discs, only the CMC and other junk.

[Noahtuck]

Damn if he wants to use labels than let him. ridgerunrbunny are these not the foil labels you are looking for? http://www.shop4tech.com/item1545.html

WOW!!!!! those are pricey!!! i don't remember the foil and prism ones i was looking at a long time back being that expensive!!!

At those prices you really could justify buying an R200 printer ($40-60?) and using it to print on the disc. You probably get like 100 discs on one set of ink cartridges and they look better and are guaranteed to not cause playback problems.

For Real!!!!!!!!!

The silver discs create an awesome hologram look when printed at normal contrast and look more normal as you increase the contrast. Highly recommended.

And if you want something that looks like a foil label for a killer hologram type effect, you just buy silver injet printable dvd's!!

Yep!!! i did some custom dvdr's & music cdr's and used a nice shot of the sky with clouds and the result was AMAZING!!!!!! i tried to scan it before but you just can't get the true effect and how great some of them can look in a scan or photo, but some don't look as good as other's, you get a feel (or eye) for what will look good and what won't after a little experiance.

But you would definately NOT be dissapointed investing under $100.00 for a Epson R200 or R300 and some printable media!!!

[ridgerunrbunny]

First, I am a she not a he nor a retard.

Now for a quick english lesson. The subject of the question was. . . . I'd like a nicer label. . . . the object was. . . where do I buy them. . .

noahtuck's answer was the closest I got to a nicer looking label, but still no answer as to where to buy one. So . . . .

I sell my instructional dvd's and I think customers prefer seeing something they are familiar with. I don't mind replacing a defective dvd, but one year or more down the line I would like them to buy a replacement. Cold, but business is business.

The question still stands, , , ,

Where would I buy one? (Who carries the machine?)

Bunny

[Rich86]

Hi Bunny,
I hope you are not saying you are attempting to limit the life of your instructional video dvd products to 1 year via the type of labeling you put on the disc. It's hard to be sympathetic with a person who is engaging in such business practices. You'd better hope none of your customers read this forum and figure out who you are.

But - back to the question.

I will add my vote to the advice you are being given to avoid stick-on labels especially on burned dvd media. You are looking for reliability problems - potentially quite quickly. If you want your business to be known for quality and not unreliability, stay away from stick-on labels.

You can buy an Epson inkjet printer that is capable of printing to inkjet printable cd and dvd media in many retail computer equipment outlets and via the internet. I use an Epson R320 and it works great. I bought it at a local Best Buy store when it was on sale. Search the internet for other Epson models and places to purchase. As with most inkjet printers, the oem ink cartridges can be pricey, but you are probably dealing with that issue already for stick-on labels. I've used the following inkjet printable white media: Ritek DVD-r & CD-R, Benq DVD+R hub-printable and TDK DVD+R. I buy my media over the internet. I've used meritline.com and shop4tech.com, but there are plenty others. They have all burned successfully, played perfectly, and look great. You should burn your media before printing to it in the printer, according to the printer manufacturer and that is what I always do.

Why use inkjet printable media instead of sticky labels?
1. The media costs about the same.
2. You won't have to buy labels anymore.
3. You won't have to attach the labels to the media anymore.
4. The printing time is probably not much different if you are printing your stick-on labels via inkjet, although it does require more of your personal attention to mount and feed the media to be printed (you can't just put a stack of media in the printer tray and walk away).
5. The end product is superior looking.
6. The end product is more reliable.

Keep in mind that although it is nice that you don't mind replacing a defective media - it is still an indication of poor quality and a source of customer dissatisfaction. Better that defective products never go out the door - and last more than a year. I doubt that many of your customers are going to think it is reasonable and normal for their purchased dvd to stop functioning after 1 year. Better to sell them next year's version because it is an improved product and offers a discount for existing customers works much better.

I hope our comments are helpful.

[ZippyP.]

The subject of the question was. . . . I'd like a nicer label. . . . the object was. . . where do I buy them. . .

The point is that most of the regular members here care about their hobby and they like to produce a quality product. Labels on a DVD can ruin that product and if you care about quality then you shouldn't use them either.

It's unlikely that a regular member here will give you the exact answer that you're looking for because we've already given you the best advice that we can. Take it or leave it.

[ridgerunrbunny]

Thanks for all the advice.

I think the comment that you all take your hobby seriously says a lot. Actually what it says is, that, this is not your primary source of income, and that you (whoever) have a regular job. You might like to contemplate that if making and selling films was your only source of income you would be hard pressed to afford what you are advising. And Im sure if you are in business you probably have a wonderful line of credit. Something some of us do not enjoy.

I can say I have probably forgotten more than most of you have learned about quality. Quality is nice but you can't eat it. It's not nice and fuzzy at bed time, and in the long run nobody will care. Quality is a "Matter of Opinion". If I say that I make quality products the only person who is going to agree with me is the person who likes that product and finds it useful. Someone who would care less about sheep in Missouri isn't going to give a hill of beans about it. How many times are you going to watch a sheep get sheared? Now if I wanted to make a artzy-fartzy movie with some sort of in depth statement I might consider that the patron is going to watch the movie year after year to hype their emotions. All I do is make instructional films about how to Spin on a spinning wheel, or dye with native plants. People who buy my products probably won't watch it again after they get what there is to get out of it. It truly is a "paper plate". Planned obsolescense.

At the age of 61 I am past competing with 20, 30, 40 or 50 year olds for a "job and I am too young to collect my pension or my social security. I live in the poorest section of America where if your family didn't come in with Louis and Clark you are a stranger. And if you have never seen "Deliverance" you might want to rent it to see what some areas of this country are still like.

Now the moral of this breathless desertation is that regardless, of your opinions about what someone should or should not be doing, some people just have to "Make do the best they can". We are not morons nor are we retards for that. It is a fact of financial life. An experience for you to look forward too. I appreciate your "Opinions" but they are only opinions and my pocket book is probably not as deep as yours.

So I guess my customers will get an ugly no pictue unprofessional looking dvd.

[ZippyP.]

So I guess my customers will get an ugly no pictue unprofessional looking dvd.

Your post was very interesting and enlightening. It was unkind of others to use the words moron and retard and I do not share that opinion. As you have illustrated, each of has our requirements and standards. To each their own.

If I may I offer another suggestion, how about a disk case with a nice looking cover? They can read and look at the cover while the disk is in the machine and it looks good on the shelf. I find that far more practical than a good looking disk.

[jimmalenko]

Well that's all well and good Bunny, and I don't mean to be inflammatory or to make this a personal attack, but just a quick calculation tells me that this certainly has nothing to do with money in terms of production costs. Printable DVDRs are the same price as branded so they rule each other out, and irregardless of if you print on a label or on a disc you're still printing on something so as far as the printer and the ink go, they rule each other out also. By my calculations it is actually costing you more in production using your current method since you have to buy the labels !

Now as for your policy, the only way I can justify your policy to myself is that you'll happy take the money a year down the track for another product, either knowing full well (or being totally oblivious to the fact) that the product you're producing now is sub-standard, costs you more to produce, and has a pretty good chance of failing at some point should the experts here be right (and I think they are).

The irony about this whole thing here is that we as hobbyists seem to be much more concerned about quality of our backups, home movies and captures than a number of people who "fly by night" here for advice in relation to a commercial or business matter. I don't mean to be rude but I for one really don't have a lot of time for people who use a free site for business advice, pull a "poor me", "you 'experts' are hobbyists; that just doesn't fly in the real world", "I've forgotten more than you know" type post, and then try to tell
the experts who provide their advice for nothing that they don't know what they're talking about.

Given your first thread here a couple of weeks ago ( https://forum.videohelp.com/viewtopic.php?t=288886 ), as a consumer that takes this hobby seriously, I for one would probably not buy any of your products, as I would be very concerned about if you really know what you're doing. Not good for business. Chances are that that "media incompatibility" could have been caused by a label !

[adam]

I'd like a nicer label. . . . the object was. . . where do I buy them. . .

noahtuck's answer was the closest I got to a nicer looking label, but still no answer as to where to buy one. So . . . .

Gee and I thought my reply was pretty helpful. Since you are looking for foil labels and like shopping at Shot4tech, I'll ask again. Is this not exactly what you are looking for?

http://www.shop4tech.com/item1545.html

[lawnman]

For those who call people who use sticky labels idiots let me tell you that I've never had a problem with my DVDs so you, even the moderaters don't know what they are talking about.

non-linear said
"You're right. If he/she/it wants to be a retard and screw up their discs with sticky labels, who are we to argue "

Your the retard for saying something stupid like that.

[jimmalenko]

For those who call people who use sticky labels idiots let me tell you that I've never had a problem with my DVDs so you, even the moderaters don't know what they are talking about.

non-linear said
"You're right. If he/she/it wants to be a retard and screw up their discs with sticky labels, who are we to argue "

Your the retard for saying something stupid like that.

I bet you thought long and hard about posting that for the full 48 hours, didn't you ?

[lawnman]

NOW I KNOW WHY NOBODY TOLD ME ABOUT THIS FORUM BECAUSE THE ONLY THING YOU GET IS SMART ASS REMARKS FROM DUMB ASS PEOPLE!!!!!

[lawnman]

I've been all over different threads in this forum and they are all the same, STUPID remarks.

[gadgetguy]

Part of me wants to quote Deanna Troi:
"Would you stop this petty bickering!!"



The other part wants to quote Data:
"Please, continue the petty bickering." :P


No one disputes that some people that use labels never have a problem, (OK, almost no-one), but there is enough evidence to show that if you want to avoid problems, it's safer not to use them. And if you are charging for the disks, you should minimize the risk of problems as much as possible.

[Rich86]

Well this thread sure headed for the bottom of the drain quickly, didn't it? What a waste of time trying to help Bunny, eh?
Someone pull the plug on this one please . . .

[garryheather]

Well not to be different, but I have about 100 CD-R's that I put white labels on. None of them have caused me problems yet. No bubbling or anything yet. I would like to use pre-labeled discs, but I can't ever find any TY MIJ or other good quality in STORES, only MIT junk. Not even Fry's has good labeled discs, only the CMC and other junk.

Just for the benefit of those new to this idea, such discs are generally known as inkjet printables. If you look for "pre-labeled" you won't get very far.

You may need to check out the online retailers for decent discs as high street stores don't worry about brand, it's all about what they think they can sell at the price. Here in the UK, SVP have several decent brands of printable discs and they're not afraid to post the real manufacturer's ID on their website.

[hudsonf]

For those who call people who use sticky labels idiots let me tell you that I've never had a problem with my DVDs so you, even the moderaters don't know what they are talking about.

I wasted 2 or 3 DVD's by using labels. They played great before I labeled them. I tried playing them on my computer and 4 different players and they would not play. I will never use labels on DVD's again. The OP has a post about people returning DVD's that will not play for them but will play for her. If she used labels I would say that the labels are the problem. If she would read adam's reply he gave her a link to check out.

[Craig Tucker]

You have stated that your customers are complaining about their DVD players not being able to play your discs. Try not using the labels and see if you get less complaints from your customers not being able to play your DVD's. Financially (after the oultay on a printer) you would probrably be better off printing direct to disc, and the product is far more professional looking, something that should be a deciding factor if doing this professionally. As for labels I am afraid I cannot give any advice. I have not used one in years and even if it were proved that labels cause no problems whatsoever, I still would not use them, as their appearance is far inferior to that of printed discs.