DVD Shrink burnt DVD's skip & Freeze (worse after 1:20)

[uncleB]

When I play Back up disks I’ve made with DVD Shrink they work great for about One Hour and fifteen to twenty minutes or so, then they start to freeze, breakup, start showing pixels and so on. I want to back up some Adam Sandler flicks, and some kids flicks for my granddaughter. My son burnt a couple on his DVD burner with DVD Shrink & played them on my DVD player (a 2003 Samsung) and they were fine. Any ideas, I could sure use your help.
Uncle Bob

[adam]

The problem is probably due to the brand/type of DVD media you are burning on. Try using the same brand that your son used and see if you have better luck (I'm assuming you two didn't use the same kind.)

If you haven't already, check the compatiblity chart on this site to see which brands/types of media people with your player have had the best luck with.

[guns1inger]

As Adam says, it is probably media related. The way writeable media is created is by putting dye around the centre of the disk, spinning it to spread the dye to the edges, then sealing it between the layers. Cheaper/less reputable media can have inconsistent dye spread towards the outer edges. DVD data is written from the inside edge to the outside edge, so the later parts of the movie are written to the poorest quality part of the disk (is the disk has issues), causing this type of break up toward the end of the film.

[uncleB]

DVD Shrink burning problems (follow up)
Wow,
You all really rallied to help me. Like I originally said my son’s burned DVD-R’s seemed to play good in my player. This made me think it might be my burner. I burnt a couple of DVD’s and gave them to him so he could try them in his player. He said of the 4 I gave him 3 worked fine (they didn’t for me). So I think the player has something to do with it. I’m going to go to Circuit City with a couple of Burnt DVD’s and try them in some of their Stand alone players. I’ll let you know how it goes (if it makes a difference). It wouldn’t hurt is some of you might have a suggestion on which player (reasonably priced of course) seems to be more successful with playing burnt DVD’s, and what DVD’s seem to work best. Like I said I used Sony’s & TDK’s. Also I quit using Nero and use Decrypter & Shrink together. I use the deep analysis, slowest burn speeds, changed the size (as you suggested) and like I said these things haven’t helped. I am thinking that even though I’m using what I would consider to be good quality Disks as one of you said that doesn’t mean much cause things aren’t always consistent. About a year ago I posted a problem I was having with burning CD’s and Taiyo Yuden
was suggested, I sent away for some and they made all the difference in the world. I never thought about them making DVD’s. Maybe you all might have a reasonably priced source and type of Yuden you think I should get. I keep stressing reasonably priced because I already have a stand alone player, and am thinking of getting another just to play these damn DVD’s. And I’ve already purchased and blown a wad on DVD’s (Sony & TDK).
Again thanks for all the help. Here’s hoping & praying I can use all thin info and finally get some positive results. I’ll keep checking the posts & posting my results hoping they might help others with similar problems.
Uncle Bob

[steptoe]

I've never ysed Tayo Yuden media, but as a lot of review sites claim theyd on't bother to check Tayo Yuden media in their tests as it isn't really worth as they already know how good the results will be

Don't buy those cheap 'specials' to me thats why there are 'specials' as they are rubbish

Spend that bit of extra money on buying quality and you will be more happier in the end



But from what you say is your problem, thats the usual problems you get with cheaper media, as they get closer to the edge of the media your problems will get worser

DVD Shrink and DVD Decrypter as the burning engine should be fine together, other burning software can have a nasty habit of thinking they are better than the software that made the VOB files and allegedly actually change the initial IFO file, and screw things up

My preference is to avoid Nero as a DVD burner, I have major problems with Nero and one of my standalones not even recognising the DVD, it woudld play in one but not the other. I changed to DVD Decrypter all my stuttering and player problems went away

I proved this using exactly the same media, same batch, same source, everything. All I changed was to stop using Nero to burn DVD's. I also used to get various minor pauses, again not with DVD Decrypter

My media isn't the most expensive, but far from the cheapest, by DataWrite which media I use had very good reviews after much reading on media and DVD burners

[guns1inger]

As a general rule, disks made in Japan are of higher quality than those made in Taiwan. That said, some burners work better with some disks than others, and some players will also play back better with certain brands. I have tried to use japanese manufactured TY disks in the past, and had a 50% coaster rate. I still use Ritek G05 printables in my NEC burner, and get great burns and perfect playback every time. For me, this combination works, so I stick with it.

If you can get TY's, by all means give them a go. If they worked for you in the past, then it will probably solve your problem.

You may also be correct about your player. I know my trusty original Pioneer 414, which had given me great (and prolific) service for 5 years, started having problems with writable disks while still playing commercial disks without a hitch. (Re)writable disks have a lower surface reflectivity than pressed disks, so as the laser wears out, or even gets dirty, problems will usually show up with these first. However, as you problems seem to be in the latter half of the disk consistently, I suspect media is the number one culprit, with the player being in a secondary role.

[Sabro]

I've found (and some may disagree) that the cheaper ($30-$50) DVD Players like Apex and Cyberhome tend to be less fussy with burnt DVDs than the more expensive models like Sony, etc..

Now mind you, I'm not saying in any form that using cheap media will help you out in any case, cause mostlikely it WON'T...just that the lesser 'name' brands tend to be less fussy.

With the prices now a days, and the headaches you'll save, there is NO excuse not to use good media

To answer your other question, my Apex's tend to perfer Fuji Film 120/go +r DVDs of any speed.

Sabro

[guns1inger]

Sony are probably the fussiest of the big name brands. I have always used Pioneer and have been able to throw pretty much anything at it. The exception being SVCD on my first player, but VCD/SVCD holds no interest for me, so it wasn't a draw back.