new titles won't work with dvd shrink?

[soothsayer]

Using dvd shrink some of the new dvd titles, ie...Amityville 2005 and Kicking and Screaming, come up as having an invalid files. Is ther another program that will back these up?

[nelson133]

Yup, try dvdfabdecrypter, also free and constantly updated. Nyah Levi

[thegeeman]

Second that. Nelson133 is spot on. Just get most upto date version. then shrink afterwards.

[johnny quest]

Used Shrink on Kicking and Screaming, no probs for me.

[blinky88]

The latest version of DVD Decrypter is 3.5.4 ..and.. there will not be any further updates to this superior application.

[dvdguy4]

I used DVD Decrypter to rip the used DVD2one to transcode. No problem for me.

[SCDVD]

While there are some newer titles that won't work with DVD Shrink and DVD Decrypter (and more and more will appear that won't because neither of these products will have any new releases to support newer protection schemes), there is another issue as well. There will be a tendency to assume it's a problem with Shrink or Decrypter when the problem may only be a read problem with the source disc. That's why we hear "I didn't have a problem" with some titles. No doubt as time goes by, there will be more and more new titles that have protection schemes that Shrink and Decrypter can't deal with. But that isn't the only cause for problems. In some cases, it is nothing more than a scratched source disc.

[psx_pirate]

Amityville 2005 has sony ARccOS protection .... use dvdfab decrypter to rip it or use dvddecrypter and create a PLS file to get rid of the sony ArccOs protection

see this link on how to make a PLS file http://forum.digital-digest.com/showthread.php?t=51810

[Seeker47]

Amityville 2005 has sony ARccOS protection

I've been meaning to ask: Does anyone know just about when the ARccOS started coming into regular use ? I've had some Sony titles from 2003 that clearly don't have it, and I think some from 2004. Or maybe they just use it for certain of their "A-list" titles ?

[shelbyGT]

The first I noticed it was with Resident Evil: Apocalypse. Other titles around then had it as well so I don't know the official "first DVD" that had it.

[BSpielbauer]

Amityville 2005 has sony ARccOS protection

I've been meaning to ask: Does anyone know just about when the ARccOS started coming into regular use ? I've had some Sony titles from 2003 that clearly don't have it, and I think some from 2004. Or maybe they just use it for certain of their "A-list" titles ?

As I recall, the first titles with the Sony Arccos copy protection began to appear either in December of 2004 or in January of 2005.

EDIT--This statement above refers only to its appearance on Region 1 discs in the US. It apparently first appeared on a few obscure discs in Europe, one in Germany, back in July/August of 2004. In September of 2004, it had appeared often enough on European discs that DVDDecrypter was mentioning it in his update (although he referred to it merely as "structure problems"). LightningUK again modified the DVDDecrypter program in his January 2005 update, and first called it by name in December and January on his forums.

A couple of things which may help, in this discussion:

-There is Sony ARccOS, and there is also another _similar_ recent form of copy protection, which most believe is not really Sony ARccOS, but is a very similar scheme (it uses corrupt video data in unreferenced material; it most often features a video in VIDEO_TS.VOB where a kid jumps in the air, played over and over. DVD Shrink can't handle this video. It's a hidden video clip which is usually put in the subpictures).

-This second form can be found on non-Sony discs.

-DVDShrink will choke on either of the two.

-The latest version of DVDDecrypter still handles MOST of these discs, on its own. However, a few of the very recent releases (starting with the Region 2 release of the DVD "Closer") have caused DVDDecrypter to fail. One workaround is to create a special ".PSL file" which tells DVDDecrypter exactly where the problem areas are. These .PSL files can be created by the user, or often can be found posted on some of the forums around the Internet. They are "DVD-specific," though...

-DVDFabDecrypter's latest version is (as suggested above) a possible workaround, but it can be less than ideal. The reason is that DVDFabDecrypter's method of plowing through this protection is to ignore read errors. This means that it can also ignore, and skip past any REAL problems with the disc, such as scratches, gouges, fingermarks, etc. You could end up with a successul rip, with some actual missing material. If the disc had major flaws, this might mean a disc that is not very watchable.

-As far as anyone knows, neither of these two forms of copy protection have anything to do with "RipGuard." RipGuard was widely touted by Macrovision, and claims were that it would appear in midsummer, or late summer. However, if it has appeared, no one has been able to detect it. In all likelihood, though, Macrovision probably had to go back to the design stages with RipGuard, or they have had difficulty selling it to any of the distributors. As of today, there has yet to be any disc confirmed with this new form of copy protection (RipGuard)

There is no definitive list of all of the DVDs that used these two types of DVD copy protection which are out there (Sony's ARccOS and the so-called "Running Boy corrupt video data problem"). The best list I have seen, though, is linked below. Early on, this list was very complete. Lately, it has not been updated as often, partly because the number is growing every week, and so many of the reports turned out to be "false claims," which meant they were removed from the list, often a day after they had been added.

Click below on the link to see a discussion of this, and a good list of all of the EARLY DVDs that used these two protections:

http://forum.digital-digest.com/showthread.php?t=48842&highlight=Sony+Arccos+running

Hope this helps in understanding,

-Bruce

[bdf24]

I just backed up Amithyville Horror 2005 with DVDShrink alone and it worked fine.

[Seeker47]

I is not really Sony ARccOS, but is a very similar scheme (it uses corrupt video data in unreferenced material; it most often features a video in VIDEO_TS.VOB where a kid jumps in the air, played over and over. DVD Shrink can't handle this video. It's a hidden video clip which is usually put in the subpictures).

-This second form can be found on non-Sony discs.

If anyone succeeded in extracting this clip and putting it on the Net, I'd be curious to check it out. Sounds like it is well hidden though, and that might be pretty difficult, if it is integrated into some other stream.

IClick below on the link to see a discussion of this, and a good list of all of the EARLY DVDs that used these two protections:

http://forum.digital-digest.com/showthread.php?t=48842&highlight=Sony+Arccos+running

Anything that is not part of the recognized standard -- and even some things that are -- might cause problems on some players. I'm sure that must be going over well.

IHope this helps in understanding,

Yes, you filled in the history of this quite well. Thanks.

[steptoe]

Use DVD Decrypter along with AnyDVD

AnyDVD removes the protection and is updated very frequentlly when new methods come out. DVD Decrypter does the ripping which its very good at

[fscrocco]

I agree with steptoe. Use AnyDvd with DVDDecryper, Shrink, TDA, etc. I have read on this forum (or maybe avsforum) that DVDFab Decrypter has some problems.