Finalized DVD couldn't be doubling

[question12]

This is my first time to post the question, please be kind.
I record from vhs tape to DVD on the stand alone DVD recorder, then I finalize. Most of time, I can copy this master DVD by either computer or stand alone machine. Sometimes, I have problem to copy it on the stand alone machine, even if I use DVD shrink to read data then I got data error or wrong structure. I'm OK with the play back either on computer or DVD player, only problem with copy. Please help.
Thanks

[rkr1958]

What kind of error are you getting when the copy fails? Are you trying to copy to your harddrive or to another DVD?

[question12]

when I try to read data from dvd shrink on my PC, or copy and paste to my hard drive, all I got data error or wrong structrue, but play back is ok on any DVD player or PC

[rkr1958]

Write down the specific error your getting, for example, are you getting the "Cyclic Redundancy Error". If so, then that is a good indication of poor quality media. By the way, what media are you using?

[lordsmurf]

DVD Shrink cannot read DVD+VR format, nor should you want to. Why use DVD Shrink? What's the point?

IFO entries are doubled and you have the wrong folder structure as compared to the specific DVD-Video DVD Shrink looks for.

[Stormin Norman]

Just do it in video mode instead and finalize. Then burn copies. Not all dvd players can play DVD+VR anyway.

[lordsmurf]

All players should be able to play DVD+VR. Your're thinking of DVD-VR.

DVD+VR is just a more specialized subset of DVD-Video, nothing special about it. For all intents and purposes DVD+VR is DVD-Video.

But DVD Shrink software is made for a very narrow purpose. The extra folders and the doubled IFO data confuses it.

[rkr1958]

I'm confused here (not unusual for me). I have a TIVO DVD Recorded that will write out stored programs to DVD-R(W). I use DVD-RWs. The DVD structure is the same as when I author and burn DVDs from my PC. I'm able to use shrink, DVD-Decrptyer, etc. on the DVDs burned from my TIVO unit. I must be mixing apples and oranges here, DVD-RW burned from my TIVO versus DVD+/-VR?

[question12]

DVD Shrink is able to read my other master but the one I could not burn. Let said, DVD Shrink could not read DVD+VR, I also can't copy and paste the master DVD to my HD. Actualy, It goes almost to the end of process then popup the data error message. I always to burn my DVD+R master to DVD-R on the standalone copy machine and also need to finalize the master in order to be read by any DVD player and have no problem with this. However, sometime I could not burn from my 7 target standalone that's why I try to burn from PC but I got reject as well. Any idea?

[Cornucopia]

Which one is it--TIVO or DVD recorder? Unless I'm mistaken, TIVO doesn't make DVD recorders.
Which one is it--DVD+R/W or DVD-R/W? DVD recorders don't do both, they're either one or the other.

Until you clarify, there's not much we can do for you...

Scott

[question12]

Let me clarify my work
-hook up VCR to Magnovox DVD Recorder
-Record VHS on Magnovox DVD recorder with DVD+R/W (Magnovox only accept DVD +R/W)
-After recorder done, finalize disc called DVD Master
-Place DVD Master to reader drive of 7 target stand alone, and blank DVD -R/W to the writer
-Press copy.........I'm done.

Most of time, I have no problem
If I can not burn the master to DVD -R/W by 7 target machine, I try to burn the master from PC, I could not read the data by using DVD shrink (have no problem to read data with other master), or copy and paste the audio & video folder to my HD. The master with problem is OK with play back on any dvd player or PC. At first, I think of media issue, then I have couple test and I find out whenever I finalize on that DVD recorder (I have more than 1 recorder) I always have problem. Any idea or strick on process of finalize or recording?

[Cornucopia]

Do me a favor and get ISOBuster. Open the (original DVD+RW) disc in that app...

Does it have more than 1 session/track?

If so, that may be your difficulty. However, you should be able to extract the VOBs from with ISOBuster, create a new VIDEO_TS folder and burn a fixed DVD-Video master using your usual burn software (Nero?).

Let us know,

Scott

[rkr1958]

Oh, so I did initially understand you correctly. You're using your Magnovox DVD Recorder to burn a recorded show to DVD+RW. You are then having problems copying / reading SOME of those discs to / with your compter. What happens on those disc when you just try a straight copy from the DVD+RW to your computer harddrive? What's the error message that Windows give you?

[lordsmurf]

DVD Shrink is able to read my other master but the one I could not burn.

What?

And again, why are you using DVD Shrink?

[bipartite]

I have a lite-on 5045 all writer. I mainly use dvd-r to record on. How do you record in dvd-video? Mine always records in dvd-vr.
Thanks!

[Cornucopia]

To extend what lordsmurf is asking...

DVD Shrink is a program for taking DVD's that are too large to fit on DVD recordables and shrinking them enough so they'll fit.
You're starting with a recordable, so you already know it'll fit. No need to ever use DVD Shrink.

Once again, I would ask: are you using ISOBuster? Should be in everyone's toolkit.

Scott

[question12]

To Cornucopia: I never use ISOBuster, will give it a try tonight.
To Lordsmurf: I did not mean to shrink my DVD. DVD Shrink just one of the tool to scan my data. Beside DVD Shrink I also use nero and so on........ So no answere for why using DVD Shrink. Thanks

[lordsmurf]

Use DVD Decrypter, READ ISO, WRITE ISO
Makes a copy perfect

Also be sure you're using good media.

[hech54]

People like me and others LIKE to use DVDShrink on their DVD Recorder created discs because we are able to see exactly what is going on via the preview window.
Of course doing an exact copy of a DVD Recorder created disc in DVDShrink is not necessary BUT it is a very valuable tool when taking only certain parts of the disc.

[question12]

I open my master in IsoBuster and there is only 1 session, 1 track, video_rm and video_ts.
Can you tell me any thing wrong?

Also, to answere the error message when I copy&paste video_ts and video_rm to my HD is "Cannot copy VTS_01_4ata error (cyclic redundacy check).
Thanks

[Cornucopia]

So it sounds like you've got either a bad scratch or bad media (or both).

I'm surprised that the DVDplayer app could play it, but not that the settop could.

Do this:
Borrow another settop, run the outs of it to the ins of your recorder, RECORD a new disc. Finalize it. Get better media.

Scott

[BobK]

Which one is it--DVD+R/W or DVD-R/W? DVD recorders don't do both, they're either one or the other.

Well that's totally incorrect. Do a search on DVD Recorders to the left. You'll get 98 models that are not just one or the other- they do both. Liteon, Hitachi, JVC, LG, NEC, Phillips, Sony and others sell dual format recorders.

[Cornucopia]

Which one is it--DVD+R/W or DVD-R/W? DVD recorders don't do both, they're either one or the other.

Well that's totally incorrect. Do a search on DVD Recorders to the left. You'll get 98 models that are not just one or the other- they do both. Liteon, Hitachi, JVC, LG, NEC, Phillips, Sony and others sell dual format recorders.

Happily, I stand corrected.

Scott