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  1. Member iambboop's Avatar
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    After pouring over this site for almost a week now & trying to learn how to create a CD or DVD that can play in my Pioneer DVR-RT500 I've only come up with brick walls. I did finally call Gateway and discovered that my computer will NOT burn DVDs. I had hoped that I could download a plug-in or something... yeah, suppose that gives me away as a newbie.

    Anyway, I've created this awesome slideshow called Iraq & Back with Adobe Photoshop Elements 4.0 & plan on creating many more (much better than scrapbooking). However, since the file is saved as a wma/v file it will only play in the windows media player. It's too big to email (292mb) and converting to other formats using several diff. downloads hasn't worked yet.

    I need to be able to convert this wmv into a file that will play in my DVD player. It's has the dual mode required to read the video cd... but only gives me a "incorrect disc" when I try to play. So, troubleshooting... using diff. CD-R brands, diff. file formats.... HELP! All I really want to do is share this movie and others with family and friends.

    I'm adding one of the conversions if anyone can open and see it....



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    Welcome to the forum. Now, I am going to give you some constructive criticism. You can either learn from it and maybe get some help or get pissed off and get nothing.

    You made what I would call a typical rookie mistake. You made a post asking for help and you don't tell us exactly what you have done. Did you convert this WMV file to VCD? What did you use to convert it? What settings? What did you use to author the VCD? What did you burn with? New guys often think that by providing as few details as possible, they will not overburden anyone and be more likely to get help but that is exactly the opposite of what happens. Based on your message, I have no idea at all what you did. What you did is kind of like taking your car to be repaired and refusing to tell the repair guy what's wrong with it, but demanding that he repair it.

    You could try using TMPGenc to convert it to VCD. There are plenty of guides on how to use TMPGenc to make VCDs. My best guess is that you definitely did not make a VCD. The fact that your link is to an IFO file (useless for VCD as this is a DVD file) makes me have a lot of questions about your process. What do you mean by "dual mode" also?

    Finally, you might get more help by posting to the VCD/SVCD forum, but you need to provide a LOT of details about exactly what you did or no one can help you.
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    Thank you for your advice. NO not pissed off. Too frustrated with trying to figure out what in the world I am doing to be that.
    I used Video DVD maker, also tried DVD Santa before finding out that I can't burn DVDs without an external/internal DVD drive. Yeah, I know... newbie. I will check out the TMPGenc and go from there. Again, thank you for taking the time to even reply.
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    Sounds like your first problem is that you need a DVD burner. You can do everything else right but if you can't burn a DVD it does you no good.

    I wrote the above before reading your response. Forget everything else until you get a DVD burner. That is step one. Without it you will never be able to create a DVD to play on a DVD player. That is, unless you plan to send the file out and have DVD's pressed. I doubt that very much.
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    What they said...

    If I were you, I wouldn't even consider creating a VCD. Their quality, at best, sucks. If you've got high quality pictures, then spend the $50 or so to get a DVD burner. In the long run (5-10 years hence), you will appreciate that you took the time to create a slide show that is a pleasure to watch.
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    The burning software that came with your Gateway should have a built in VCD option. Try using that first

    Gateway did bundle Nero as that app on some of their PCs in the last couple of years. Most other CD recording programs (Record Now ....) also have these functions. This will give you a semi one click option to create a VCD. Choose create VCD, then drag and drop your WMV file. Nero will re-encode it to the correct format.

    Check out the glossary section, to your upper left, on this site. So you'll know about the different formats.

    After you create and playback your VCD, if you decide it isn't up to snuff for your desired quality, then start buying some new equipment. Some people are more than satisfied with VCD quality. They maybe few, but there's nothing I hate more than someone attempting to oversell me something that I don't want/need. Nothing like stating I want to listen to music on my PC, and having someone tell you to buy an M-Audio 7:1 sound card with Klipsch THX certified speakers. So start out with what you have, then add on to it later if need be.

    If you're up to the task, having a DVD burner will be the best investment for the long run, but only if it's needed.
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  7. You need to CONVERT your footage from wmv to mpeg1 OR mpeg2

    Mpeg1 is suitable for creating a VCD but is lower quality than mpeg2 which is used to create a DVD.

    If you dont want even to shell out the money for a DVD BURNER you could get a cheap CD writer which can create VCD (but really a DVD burner is your best bet)

    Try downloading some TRIAL versions of programs to see if any of them do what you require. Search on the underlined terms.

    IF All else fails look for a DVD player that plays WMV format ..
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    At VCD resolution and bitrate, mpeg1 is better than mpeg2.

    The best solution is to get a DVD burner, encode your original project with mpeg2 and author from their.

    If that isn't possible, the next best option would be a VCD slideshow. The resolution is higher than VCD video, so the results will be much better.

    Final option is what you are trying for now - VCD video - low res, low bitrate, and not going to do your photos justice.

    Nero used to be able to (and may still) do VCD slideshows. Not sure what else will - I have played with VCDs for years.
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  9. "At VCD resolution and bitrate, mpeg1 is better than mpeg2."

    Thats a whole other topic (I disagree -- on principle of CBR vs VBR)
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    Ok, I tried to burn a video CD (on a Memorex CD-R) through Nero Start Smart by adding the wmv file. However, the file was not immediately available to see. Nero hasn't liked my wmv files in the past. I have to choose "all files" then choose the one I want. I hit play to see how the converted file quality ran & did a test run before burning and all seemed to be ok. Once the burning process was over it wouldn't play in my Pioneer DVR-RT500. It said "Incorrect disc C-105".

    So I tried it in another DVD player. JVC DVD/CD & VCR (model#HR-XVC25U)... it played. The resolution was greatly diminished and the menu at the beginning confusing. I had to hit the reverse skip index button on the remote to get it to play. I did try creating a video CD through Nero before finding this site and had the same results, but didn't write them down. So, I went through the whole process again so I could at least give a detailed account of my specific problems. Yes, I will have to buy a DVD burner. A VCD isn't a good enough quality for me. It's like spending weeks on one project and just as it's completed... your 3 year old child destroys it.

    I feel like I am so close to "getting" this whole thing then I hit another brick wall. Though through this site I've learned that its not a brick wall after all... it's only a maze.
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    VCD resolution is 352 x 240 (NTSC), and 352 x 288 for PAL. You can have stills at full D1. I am assuming your WMV file is probably either full D1 or at least 640 x 480.

    If you seriously want to preserve your memories, stopping dicking about with VCD and SVCD, and buy a DVD burner. VCD is an inferior and low grade (sub-VHS) quality format. SVCD is better, however not very compatible with stand alone players. DVD is high quality, universal, and the way to go. Anything else is wasting time.
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    Amen and Amen to that. My husband spoke with someone at work and someone is not using their DVD burner AND is willing to sell it to us.... gotta see what kind it is and all that jazz. Also not going to mess around with saving pics on CDs.... looking for a good external hard drive.
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    As above, get a DVD burner. Pretty dam cheap in the US.

    Easy to install, if you don't know how, one of your friends will.
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  15. Originally Posted by bb oop
    I've created this awesome slideshow called Iraq & Back
    Sup bb,

    Are you a Vet; returning from Iraq? There are Community Colleges, that have workshops for returning Vets, they might help with your project, (as long as it is not too political 8) ) I am a newbee here but, I would like to view you work. Have you considered putting the project up on an FTP site? Or maybe even contacting certain political websites if it is a little controversial.

    DVD Burner for sure, possibly a new DVD editing software to fix the menu navagation glitches; you can get both for way under $100.00 if you shoparound.

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    why not make a super video cd video cds are crap
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    Why not make a dvd super video cds are crap
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  18. Originally Posted by iambboop
    ok. Once the burning process was over it wouldn't play in my Pioneer DVR-RT500. It said "Incorrect disc C-105".
    VCD is not part of the DVD spec so there's no guarantee any particular player will play it. If you check the DVD player list here you'll see that that the DVR-RT500 may not be able to play VCD:

    https://www.videohelp.com/dvdplayers?DVDname=DVR-RT500&Submit=Search&Search=Search&dvdp...y=Name&hits=25

    Although there are only two reports so that may not be definitive.
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    What jagabo said. In fact, I believe most set-top DVD players will not play VCD. Another reason to get into DVD as soon as possible if you are at all serious about this medium.
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    Originally Posted by rsgars
    In fact, I believe most set-top DVD players will not play VCD.
    Has this been your experience, or something you read ?

    FWIW my experience has been that most will play VCD, but few will play SVCD.
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  21. Originally Posted by jimmalenko
    Originally Posted by rsgars
    In fact, I believe most set-top DVD players will not play VCD.
    Has this been your experience, or something you read ?

    FWIW my experience has been that most will play VCD, but few will play SVCD.
    That's been my experience -- most play VCD, many don't play SVCD.
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  22. Even the player does not play VCD, it will play the VCD mpeg1 in the DVD, because VCD mpeg-1 is in the DVD spec.
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    Originally Posted by SingSing
    Even the player does not play VCD, it will play the VCD mpeg1 in the DVD, because VCD mpeg-1 is in the DVD spec.
    As far as video goes, Yes. So long as the audio is 48Khz, and not 44.1Khz, like it is for VCD.
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    Originally Posted by rsgars
    What jagabo said. In fact, I believe most set-top DVD players will not play VCD. Another reason to get into DVD as soon as possible if you are at all serious about this medium.
    Fact?
    VCD quality (nowadays) is crap...but players not playing VCD?
    WTF are you talking about?
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  25. Originally Posted by jimmalenko
    Originally Posted by SingSing
    Even the player does not play VCD, it will play the VCD mpeg1 in the DVD, because VCD mpeg-1 is in the DVD spec.
    As far as video goes, Yes. So long as the audio is 48Khz, and not 44.1Khz, like it is for VCD.
    Hmm, I collect my old VCD home video, and TDA them into a DVD with Nero.It's audio come out correctly.

    Did TDA re-sampled the audio for me ?
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  26. i've only seen one or two dvd players NOT play vcd...and generally speaking, they are the ones that wont play cdr either......as for svcd, im sure it probably is less compatable, but at the moment, of all my dvd players i own, svcd plays just fine on ALL of them...either way though, your just best off to shell out 40 bux or so for a dvdrw drive, it is quite literally only a few more dollars than a cdrw drive these days (buy it online, most other places will just price gouge you for a dvd burner...i bought mine online and paid HALF)
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  27. Yes, TDA will change the 44.1Khz audio to DVD spec 48Khz. Only does the audio, does no touch the video.
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    Originally Posted by jimmalenko
    Originally Posted by rsgars
    In fact, I believe most set-top DVD players will not play VCD.
    Has this been your experience, or something you read ?

    FWIW my experience has been that most will play VCD, but few will play SVCD.
    I have a DVD player that won't play VCD. The other 3 will.
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  29. Actually it sounds like you need something like photo2dvd to put slideshow on dvd. I think nero6 or nero7 will also do this as will many other programs. See TOOLS section and slideshow
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    Originally Posted by SingSing
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    Originally Posted by SingSing
    Even the player does not play VCD, it will play the VCD mpeg1 in the DVD, because VCD mpeg-1 is in the DVD spec.
    As far as video goes, Yes. So long as the audio is 48Khz, and not 44.1Khz, like it is for VCD.
    Hmm, I collect my old VCD home video, and TDA them into a DVD with Nero.It's audio come out correctly.

    Did TDA re-sampled the audio for me ?
    Yep, TDA resamples the audio automatically.
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