Disappointed with conversion speed.

[Bullworth]

OK after I upgraded my 850 T-Bird to a 1.4GHz I was expecting to get a noticeable speed boost but that wasn't so:
I used the following settings is TMPGEnc with the VCD template:
Motion Estimation Search: Highest Quality
Noise Reduction:
Still Picture:65/Range:1/Time Axis:20
High Quality Mode:Enabled
Quantize Matrix I have MPEG Standard and Soften Block Noise enabled.
With me 850 it would take about 2hrs to process 20mins ov video with these setting, with my 1.4GHz it takes 1hr25mins. I was expecting a more drastic reduction, at least an hour. Are my settings just to high overall and what would be the most rewarding settings and is this also a software limitation? The reason I use them is because I do want the highest quality. If there really a noticeable difference between Normal, High, Highest and Motion Estimate Search along with the other settings?

System Specs:
KT7-RAID w/1.4 T-Bird
256 PC150 RAM
IBM 75GXP ATA 100 30G
Windows 98SE
TMPGEnc 12j

[JJamez]

Just curious why you thought you would get a bigger boost than you did... To cut your time in half, in theory you'd need to at least double your processor speed, assuming the chip types are the same, which yours are. You boosted the processor speed ~40% and got ~30%, which seems on par with what I've seen with my own system.

I usually use the 'High' setting, but I haven't done any testing to see what kind of a difference it makes - I would have to guess it is negligable. It may not be worth the huge increase in encoding time - especially on the 'Highest' setting.

JJ

[Kdiddy]

Yes there is no visual difference between High & Highest...however, there is considerable time difference..if you truly wanted to get much more speed, you should have upgraded the athlon XP like myself..which supports SSE & SSE2..not sure why you didnt seeing how the price difference tween the 2 chips at same speed is only 10 bucks (using pricewatch.com)

[vhelp]

just my two cents. . .

I captured a 1 hr of ST-Voyager "EndGame" last night (12am) and then set
my encoding project/batch ( 4 sections, plus some commercials I like to encode also)
Whole process took 3hrs and 23min.

For those just curious (below) . . .

SPECS were:
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* ATI Rage Fury video card - (not using to capture with)
* ATI-TV Wonder - (used for capturing)
* avi_io - Captured at 352x480 using Huffy codec
* Virtualdub frameserve with 2 filters (deinterlace:blend / sharp) to TMPG
* TMPGenc 12a
- - (no filters) - (CQVBR: 1850mn/2520mx/vbv112/no-filters/128kAudio/NormalQlty)
* Nero 5.5 burned to SVCD [ ]compliance unchecked

Played great in my Apex ad-500
Will capture the second part and use same process as above, and will
post my times here???

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[Bullworth]

Well, I upgraded my system about a year ago and although by computer standards that's old I just wasn't willing to get the newest chip if I wasn't going to be able to get the best performance out of it. I guess I'll wait until I'm ready to do another complete overhaul.
JJ, I was sort of expecting more not necessarily because of chip speed but because I''ve seen alot of posts about people with specs similar to mine getting way better conversion time using similar settings.

[Sefy]

Any SocketA with 266mhz bus board supports Athlon XP, at the most you need a BIOS update to fix the clock display correctly.
Athlon XP or even a Duron 1.1ghz would give you better performance then a regular T-Bird, heck, the Duron 1.1 beat the T-Bird 1.1 without too much problems

[vhelp]

Well, as promised. . .

After capturing the second part of
Star Trek Voyager "Endgame Part II"
Captured and Encoded at 352x480 resolution

Here's my latest encode times:

3 hours 4minutes and 6 seconds
for the whole 1 hour show, minues the
commercials.

I would suspect some of the timeconsuming aspects
are from resizing. My old method envolved resizing
640x480 down to 480x480 and too close to 8 hours,
and 640x480 down to 352x480 ...close to 7 - 8 hours.

In a NUT-shell, if you're gonna cap at 704x480 or greater,
and then only to bring down to SVCD, then you may as
well bring it down to 352x480 instead of the 480x480, and
save just a little bit more of the encoding time.

Also, if you're frameserving from VD to TMPG, it's best to
prioritize your filters - VERY IMPORTANT!! but depends on
the filter(s) you use! Another reason why I don't use TMPG's
filters. You can't priortize/sort for proper sequence of
events to reach MAXimum quality of encode! But in VD, you
can.

Again, Athlong T-Brd 900mhz w/ pc133 128mb ram

Well, I think that it for me on this thread. It's not mine, and
I can't hunt this one down since it's not e-mail enabled for me.

[Bullworth]

Thanks for the input vhelp. I did some research and actually the only version of the KT7A-RAID that supports the XP is 1.3. Looked at my version and I have 1.1 . I wrote Abit tech support and they said that any version below 1.3 would not support the XP and even if it did it probably wouldn't run properly, same problem with the MP.
So I think I'll just wait until they come out with a BIOS revision or until I upgrade again.

[flashjordan]

I have kt7a raid verion 1.1 my xp 1900 works fine. I read that same bullcrap and ordered me a kg7 raid, when board and my xp 1900 came in i set it up. Being how i am, just to test, I put xp 1900 in kt7a and it worked posted up ran fine threw every burn test for 2 days. They say they wont support it, but from what I've seen , its hit or miss. Some will work, some wont. Of course I had the latest bios, and upped the voltage a tad. I ended up keeping the kg7 because of the DDR and its alot faster than the Kt7a. My times are cut in half. I had a 1ghz tbird on old kt7a, SSE makes a big differnce





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[todd-alaska]

the kt7a generally will work, there are some timing issues is all.

Generally at the worst you'll have to reset once after a cold boot.

THey say they cant support it because of that.
basically they cant guarentee that it will work.

IM using my xp 1600 and kt7a until the kr7a raid is avaialble locally