Why am I burning everything at 1x now?

[joed1228]

I am using DVD Shrink and Supermedia 8x blank DVD's. I have a spindle of 50. About 15 of them burned at 8x but all of the sudden as I started using deep analysis; everything burns at 1x.

I have so many DVD's to backup and it is taking forever. I cant figure out why. I tried to look for an option in DVD Shrink to burn at 8x but I can't find anything. I re-installed DVD Shrink, I also re-installed Nero for the heck of it. Nothing works.

Did deep analysis screw me up, is there something I can do to correct this issue?

[bazooka]

Your drive may have reverted back to pio mode.

Uninstall the ide channel and reboot.

Windows will redetect and the drive will be back in DMA mode.

[winifreid]

Try burning with decrypter. Also, in Shrink, after you click on "Backup, and your target device is set to Burn with Nero, clcik on "Burn Settings" and you should see a drop down menu for Burn Speed. Set it to maximum.

[joed1228]

I'll try option in "burn settings". I would prefer to stick with DVD Shrink if I can. I really like the product.

Bazooka - I'll try that as a last resort, I had alot of problems with my computer, specifically with the IDE channel so I'd rather not touch that until I have exhausted all other options.

[bazooka]

I'll try option in "burn settings". I would prefer to stick with DVD Shrink if I can. I really like the product.

Bazooka - I'll try that as a last resort, I had alot of problems with my computer, specifically with the IDE channel so I'd rather not touch that until I have exhausted all other options.

No problem,

I hope you get it worked out.

[jaxxboss]

Also, check ur bios to make sure dma is enabled there as well.

[winifreid]

You can stick with Shrionk and burn with Decrypter instead of Nero. But I suggested it just to see if the problem is with your hardware/settings or with Nero.

[joed1228]

Ok, thanks for clearing that up. At first I was under another understanding.

[handyguy]

That sounds like real cheapo media. It can make your drive go back to PIO mode. Get some decent stuff.

[winifreid]

handyguy, Do you mean that you have experience with this media and have seen it change a drive to pio mode? The original poster did not indicate that his drive had reverted to pio mode, it was suggested by someone else. Also, since the drive mode is set in the MB bios, how could it revert to pio without entering the bios manually? I can imagine that something might cause the dma to switch off in windows, but this is different than changing the bios.

[bazooka]

handyguy, Do you mean that you have experience with this media and have seen it change a drive to pio mode? The original poster did not indicate that his drive had reverted to pio mode, it was suggested by someone else. Also, since the drive mode is set in the MB bios, how could it revert to pio without entering the bios manually? I can imagine that something might cause the dma to switch off in windows, but this is different than changing the bios.

You have not had enough experience in this matter.

After so many attempts to read faulty media, the drive automatically reverts to pio mode. You do not have to go into the bios manually to switch it.

In Service Pack 2, the drive disappears.

[joed1228]

What's so messed up is I used so many of the DVD's and they were all fine and dandy running @ 8x. Come to think of it, I had already went through another spindle of 50 that were 100% perfect.

Once I used deep analysis mode it went to 1x. I am going to check the DVD Shrink burn settings.

One step at a time

[winifreid]

I guess it was reading several posts at a time, one about the bios changing and the other about the drive reverting. Actually, what can happen after repeated DMA errors, is that windows turns off DMA (which is what I said). The bios is not changed, nor is the drive.
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=817472

[joed1228]

I tried the DVD Shrink burn settings, no luck.

I removed the IDE controller, no luck.

Uninstalled Nero & DVD Shrink and re-installed, no luck.

Can I just burn everything to .ISO's then to blank DVD's with DVD decrypter or do I not have the ability to adjust the compression like I do in DVD shrink?

[bazooka]

You can convert to iso and then burn with dvddecrypter.

[joed1228]

You know how in DVD Shrink I open the disc then de-select the options I want and for example I can bring the compress ratio from 50% to 60% to improve the picture?

In DVD decrypter, when I open the disc and it's 50%, it is going to be 50% when I put it onto a blank DVD in the form of a .ISO file right. Like I can't improve the quality.

I want to use DVD decrypter but I don't want low quality movies and I'm under the impression the only way to make the movie look nice is to use DVD Shrink and deselect specific items.

[winifreid]

You just use decrypter to burn. In Shrink, click on "backup", "target device", then the drop down menu for select target, pick iso image burn with decrypter. This will launch decrypter to burn (instead of Nero) when shrink finishes compressing.

[nic2k4]

How do you know your burning at 1x, does it specifically say so somewhere? Or, is it 'cause it's taking you over an hour and half from the time you start copying to the end?

On a 2GHz PC, deep analysis adds more than a half hour to the compression and the quality option is a 2-pass process.

Look in the device manager, check the settings on the IDE channel your drive is connected to. It will tell you what's the current transfer mode. Or, watch the light on the drive as it's burning, if it slowly blinks, it's in PIO mode. It should always be on solid, unless it's supposed to blink (they still make drives like that?).

[winifreid]

I never thought to ask, but since things slowed down after using deep analysis, it makes sense. Deep A takes a long time.

[joed1228]

Yes but there is an option to perform a deep analysis for every DVD and I have that turned off.

I only used deep analysis a few times.

[handyguy]

Dunno why it happened to me, but my Bios changed my drive to none once, when I set it back to AUTO, things were fast again.

Its not enough to delete the controller, you must also reset all your drives to dma.

[SuperMedia]

This was from one of our customers and we wanted to warn some of you that Service pack 2 might be the reason you could be having some burning issues.

from Chexcter:

Quote:
I am sorry for the inconveniance but i figures out what the problem
was. It seems that the new windows xp sp2 will change your Primary and
Secondary IDE channels from DMA to PIO if it encounters more than i
belevive 3 errors when reading or writing a disc. This is done to
limit the IDE channel speed so that theoretically you will have no
more errors. So as soon as i put my dvd to backup it started reading
it at a much slower speed, and went from writing at 12x to 2.3x. The
reason i received those errors was only because my discs were
scratched not because my pc couldn't handle it but windows reads it as
errors and limits you. Simple solution is just to go into device
manager and under IDE Atapi delete the primary, secondary and the ide
controller. After this you reboot and it will reinstall them
automatically then just reboot again and problem solved. I just write
this since i am pretty sure you have had more people with same problem
and you might want to add this to your tips of things to do before
returning discs



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[bazooka]

This was from one of our customers and we wanted to warn some of you that Service pack 2 might be the reason you could be having some burning issues.

from Chexcter:

Quote:
I am sorry for the inconveniance but i figures out what the problem
was. It seems that the new windows xp sp2 will change your Primary and
Secondary IDE channels from DMA to PIO if it encounters more than i
belevive 3 errors when reading or writing a disc. This is done to
limit the IDE channel speed so that theoretically you will have no
more errors. So as soon as i put my dvd to backup it started reading
it at a much slower speed, and went from writing at 12x to 2.3x. The
reason i received those errors was only because my discs were
scratched not because my pc couldn't handle it but windows reads it as
errors and limits you. Simple solution is just to go into device
manager and under IDE Atapi delete the primary, secondary and the ide
controller. After this you reboot and it will reinstall them
automatically then just reboot again and problem solved. I just write
this since i am pretty sure you have had more people with same problem
and you might want to add this to your tips of things to do before
returning discs



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Like I said in the other thread, The same thing happened with Service Pack1. This is not a SP2 specific thing.