Does the ink wash away on the R300 printed Cd's

[MAXIMUS95GST]

Hi,

I have a brand New in the box Epson R300 that i have had for a week now and after reading some reviews peolpe say that the ink on the printed cd's washes away. I s this true can someone confirm this.

Thanks

[The village idiot]

Yes it is true, don't put your disks in the sink with the dishes!

[makntraks]

Hi,

I have a brand New in the box Epson R300 that i have had for a week now and after reading some reviews peolpe say that the ink on the printed cd's washes away. I s this true can someone confirm this.

Thanks

Sorry......... but does it really matter????
I've never gotten my printed DVD discs (w/ the R300) near water.... If properly cared for it is a moot point...

Wed. night vent....

[XLR8]

I thought the Epson ink was a little more resilient in this category? What clear coat can be sprayed over the surface to prevent this?

[The village idiot]

Sorry......... but does it really matter????
I've never gotten my printed DVD discs (w/ the R300) near water.... If properly cared for it is a moot point...

Wed. night vent....

I was going to say that, but decided to be more sarcastic.
Actually, I can't say that, I did rinse a test disk just to try it. 2 of the four printed passes washed right off, the other 2 look like they were barely touched, still with decent definition and color.

I thought the Epson ink was a little more resilient in this category? What clear coat can be sprayed over the surface to prevent this?

There are several threads on this topic here in the Media forum.

[lzicc]

Here is a pic (if it uploaded correctly) of a Verbatim Inkjet/Thermal disk that I printed on the R300.
It dried overnight (about 12 hours). I wet my finger and slid it acrossed the dvd, and as you can see, it smeared very easily. The print is awesome, but the ink is very easily removed. I have some Riteks coming in today. I want to see if there is a difference in media. By the way, this is my first dvd that I printed using my new R300.

[lzicc]

I would be interested if someone could let me know if there is some kind of light, clear, fast drying spray that I can spray over the dvd that would make it water resistant.

[lzicc]

Here is one thing that I did find for protective spray:

http://store.yahoo.com/runpc/incdprot.html

Seems a little pricey though.

[Holden]

I have an Epson 960 (?) and use it to print onto Ritek printable DVD's.

It take very little moisture to make the ink smear, even days after printing.

I bought some clear, matte aerosol sealant spray (same stuff you preserve chalk drawings with). It works fine at protecting the ink.

Greg

[lzicc]

Where did you get the sealant at? Is there a name that I can search for?
Thanks.

I have an Epson 960 (?) and use it to print onto Ritek printable DVD's.

It take very little moisture to make the ink smear, even days after printing.

I bought some clear, matte aerosol sealant spray (same stuff you preserve chalk drawings with). It works fine at protecting the ink.

Greg

[Umbearto]

I'm currently using Krylon #1305 UV Protectant Spray... Do a search on the term Krylon for more info in this forum.

[lzicc]

Thanks. I did find something called Grumbacher Picture and Oil Painting Varnish at a local store. Here is a place that sells it pretty cheap: http://www.misterart.com/store/view.cfm?group_id=1546&store=001
I tried this stuff tonight, and it dried in about 5 minutes completly and left a nice, even matte finish. It seems to be very light too. I used only one coat, and I tried to smudge the dvd with a wet finger, and it did not smudge at all.

[Umbearto]

Nice find; I have always had good luck with Grumbacher products, and the price is right..!

[burdell1]

when spraying on this stuff, it won't cause water smudge marks will it? any idea where to buy DVD+R sample packs to try out different printable media?

[Guest]

Aerosol hairspray is a cheap alternative. Test first as brands vary.

[steveryan]

Has anybody tried this? The two brands mentioned above seem impossible to get hold of in the UK, unless somebody knows different.

[tonymac]

Yes Steve, am on my second lot. Got the gloss and satin to try and they are brilliant. They enhance the picture colours and make it shine. Dead easy to apply. I use the gloss on verbatim as they have a grainy finish, and the satin on dvdmasters and gigastore.

[steveryan]

Thanks, think i'll give it a whirl.

[ozstar100]

Did anyone test the hair sprays ? Any brands brands etc., that are okay?

There are heavy and soft sprays, which would be better?

Oz

[quasar1963]

Have decided for the moment to go with "spraying" the discs to effectively waterproof them but am looking for suggestions from you guys who do this on the easiest/best product out there that has given you consistently good results. I am in the US so about the only product readily available I have gathered is the Krylon sprays. But, which one to use? Have tried the Clear Gloss but it seems to bead a little too easily. I have seen suggestions ranging from the "workable fixatif" to the "crystal clear" to the "uv protectant".
Is a matte finish easier to spray a light coat with (as opposed to a gloss finish?)
Is there another product other than the Krylon which anyone has found to be easier to apply?

[The village idiot]

Just kidding





http://www.mediastreet.com/cgi-bin/tame/mediastreet/clearjet.tam?anchor=#top

http://www.luckysquirrel.com/info_sealers.html

[gmatov]

Village,

You sure you're kidding? That Lignu looks like a beautiful finish. And, since lignum vitae is full of oil, anything that could seal it in would definitely keep water out of the printed surface of a disk.

Cheers,

George

[The village idiot]

That's the machine I use for my disks! The hard part is getting the disks to bend through the rollers

[Tiny71]

Have decided for the moment to go with "spraying" the discs to effectively waterproof them but am looking for suggestions from you guys who do this on the easiest/best product out there that has given you consistently good results. I am in the US so about the only product readily available I have gathered is the Krylon sprays. But, which one to use? Have tried the Clear Gloss but it seems to bead a little too easily. I have seen suggestions ranging from the "workable fixatif" to the "crystal clear" to the "uv protectant".
Is a matte finish easier to spray a light coat with (as opposed to a gloss finish?)
Is there another product other than the Krylon which anyone has found to be easier to apply?

Make sure when you spray you are spraying from at least 10 to 12 inches away. So as to get a 'mist' spray, and NOT a soaking run prone spray.

I line a jewel case with plastic wrap, place the burned dvd/cd in the tray and spray away. Sometimes it is neccesarry to coat two times to get it uniform, remember its like painting....you want thin light coats. But usually one does it. Let it air dry and its good to go.

I use Krylon because it is easy(aresol)cheap, and it works. Matte or gloss doesn't differ for me in ease of application.

[Hawseman]

A guy named Rob Babcock, who posts on the SureThing forum looks like he tested a bunch of stuff:

Surething Forum

That's his commented ratings list......

[quasar1963]

Link will not work ... I'd be interested to read his comments

[The village idiot]

Link will not work ... I'd be interested to read his comments

Link works for me at this time.

[ozstar100]

Yes a review list of many printable media

Use this link instead to get to forum Main Page

http://forums.mvd2.com/

Take Rob Babcock

Good Luck,

Oz

[jaxxboss]

For those who can't wait, my preliminary favorites:
1. Plaid (Patricia Nimrock's) Clear Acrylic Sealer, Matte CS200306: Very good results, among the easiest to apply without running, pooling or blemishes. Odor is among better ones here. Bonus points: this is a superb paper sealer, too. Great for maps, books, etc- but the big draw is it's usefullness on CD booklets. I've been printing out some 24 pg booklets for a samper I've made, and I coated the book covers with this sealer. Perfection! Totally repells fingerprints, smears, etc.

2. Krylon Triple-Thick Crystal Clear Glaze, No. 0500: Superb finish, very bright and clear. This one may be the very best looking of all the sprays I've tried, but I have to rank it #2 due the very noxious fumes. You really don't want to use this indoors if you can possibly help it.

3. Krylon Crystal Clear Acrylic, #1303: This one is Matte and a little duller than the No. 0500, but it goes on very well and looks good. The same caveat, though, on the bad fumes.

4. Media Service CD & Paper CD-R Protector: Pretty good stuff, but a 6 oz can is $15! Then shipping is $10, as you need hazmat shipping. The only place I've reliably been able to get this is Runtech.com, and it's a good product, but pretty spendy.

5. & 6. Krylon Low Odor Spray Sealers #7110 Gloss & #7120 Matte. I wish these worked a bit better as they really are very low odor- you could probably spray these in the living room! Unfortunately though, the surface texture isn't as good, and the finish is rather bumpy & rough. Perhaps a little more experimentation will yeild better results. But for now it finishes down the list.

There are a several others I've tried with varying degrees of success, including some that perform beautifully but have are toxic/noxious for indoor use. And unless you live somewhere warm & have a large empty garage (neither of which is me!) they're just to bad to use.

I have to qualify that I can't speak to the long term wear or safety of these products: I tested them all within the last months, so any problems that take a long time to develope haven't been displayed yet. I don't expect any probs, but I do want to say use them at your own risk. As far as I know, no CD media mfg'r has spoken out for or against the use of sealers, and I imagine some of them could compromise the data layer over time. Also, even the milder sprays must be used with adequate ventilation to avoid health risks including CNS damage. So be smart with this stuff.

Hope this helps!

Thast what it said.

[assemblage]

Great stuff, thanks!