SP1 vs. SP2

[DVDDave]

anyone out there experience a better performing PC with only SP1 installed??mine is much faster and burn qualities are supurb. i can send scan if anyone is interested.

[shelbyGT]

I haven't noticed a darn difference after installing sp2

[DVDDave]

i believe ya. i read somewhere on the cdfreaks forum site that someone had an issue. i was having issues with many things, and sp2 was loaded. i didn't reload for the primary reaon of getting rid of SP2, i just wanted to try without it again and i must admit, i can see some increased performance.

don't know---just lookig of others experience.

[bazooka]

I haven't noticed a darn difference after installing sp2

Then you are not looking hard enough.

[bazooka]

i believe ya. i read somewhere on the cdfreaks forum site that someone had an issue. i was having issues with many things, and sp2 was loaded. i didn't reload for the primary reaon of getting rid of SP2, i just wanted to try without it again and i must admit, i can see some increased performance.

don't know---just lookig of others experience.

Your computer is just asking for spyware, viruses and to be hacked.

I keep trying to tell people sp2 is meant to secure your computer.

This was my response in another thread wher people like you that do not keep your computer updated were trashing service pack 2.

Let's think about it for a moment.

The average person is ignorant about a computer. Take my father-in-law for example. He believes it is no big deal to get a virus. When you get a virus it spreads to other computers or other areas of your computer. Most users are oblivious to the fact that they need antivirus software and a firewall.

When Blaster and welchia came out the wreaked havoc on computers worldwide. I read that the Blaster worm took down the department of transportation's computers in Maryland. Welchia took down Fort Worth's city hall computers for about a day or so.

Sp1 added features like larger hard drive support and bluetooth support, as well as usb2.0 support. Sp1 was also a compromise between the department of justice and microsoft. With SP1, you could set applications default properties. It was also a rollup of security patches and bug fixes.

Microsoft is not perfect. Nobody is, but there were numerous problems with SP1 so SP2 was a way of fixing it.

Take windows and and massive user base and it makes a wonderful target for hackers who just love to cause trouble.

SP2 was created so that the computer ignorant person was reasonably protected. The firewall was beefed up and turned on by default. IE was given pop-up blocking, and they made it harder for malicious programs to have their way with your computer by creating data execution prevention. A security center was also added to let people if their firewall was disabled and if they were running without antivirus protection.

Unpatched systems are very vulnerable to a variety of malicious programs, and SP2 also prompts you to turn on automatic updates.

Hopefully this answered some of your questions.

[DVDDave]

hold on BAZOKKA, i know hot i care for my PC and what to do with it. i akaso relize that SP2 was inteneded fir tjat people who don't know ho ti take care of a PC properly---SP2 could be good. For me, i sem to jave better performand with SP1.

[bazooka]

If you disable certain things, it is the same.

[bazooka]

What problems are you having?

Maybe I can help you with them.

[jimmalenko]

Mine's better with SP2 isntalled.

[Dr. DOS]

hold on BAZOKKA, i know hot i care for my PC and what to do with it. i akaso relize that SP2 was inteneded fir tjat people who don't know ho ti take care of a PC properly---SP2 could be good. For me, i sem to jave better performand with SP1.

I agree... for me SP1 with additional precautions.... for my father-in-law who doesn't know a HD from a PSU he gets SP2.

[bazooka]

hold on BAZOKKA, i know hot i care for my PC and what to do with it. i akaso relize that SP2 was inteneded fir tjat people who don't know ho ti take care of a PC properly---SP2 could be good. For me, i sem to jave better performand with SP1.

I agree... for me SP1 with additional precautions.... for my father-in-law who doesn't know a HD from a PSU he gets SP2.

I can't tell you what to do, but both of you need to be running SP2, so that your computers are more secure.

[DVDDave]

how much secure does a PC need besides all the up to date antivirus software, a fire wall--both software and hard ware, and all the updates without XP2?? i use norton for everything and never had perfroance probs before SP2. now i am back with out SP2, all security updates, norton updates....and the sucker screams.

[tekkieman]

how much secure does a PC need besides all the up to date antivirus software, a fire wall--both software and hard ware, and all the updates without SP2??

Thank you! That's what I've been trying to say all along!

[Cobra]

I upgraded to SP2 when it came out. My PC works just the same as before. I hear a lot of people saying SP2 hammers their systems, but it isn't clear why.

[smearbrick1]

I just disabled security center and turned off indexing service (as always). I haven't really noticed anything... except the fact that I haven't been attacked by activeX controls ever since I installed it...

[bazooka]

how much secure does a PC need besides all the up to date antivirus software, a fire wall--both software and hard ware, and all the updates without SP2??

Thank you! That's what I've been trying to say all along!

It also depends on what your brower is and what security level you are set at.

Antivirus programs sometimes miss viruses, and firewalls do not catch everything.

You have to factor the human equation into it. There have been attacks that SP2 protects against that SP1 does not.

My friend is an admin, and he spends more time fixing others computers than his. I always fix his. He refuses to use SP2 and his computers are ridden with spyware.

My computers have SP2 and are spyware free. It takes me hours to get rid of the spyware on his systems.

[tekkieman]

Antivirus programs sometimes miss viruses, and firewalls do not catch everything.

...and SP2 does what that makes it so much more effective? There is no AV in Windows, so there's no stopping the virus with or without SP2 if the AV misses it. Same goes with the firewall. If both a hardware and software firewall does not catch it, is SP2's firewall that much better???

It also depends on what your brower is...

So now we're back to the browser. No argument there, so why not switch browsers? If SP2's primary benefit is to patch IE, dump IE!

You have to factor the human equation into it. There have been attacks that SP2 protects against that SP1 does not.

An AI service pack? Sorry, noone can efficiently code to remove the potential for what a user might do. Too unpredictable.

[bazooka]

Tekkie

Please read this link.

https://www.videohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1111591#1111591

[tekkieman]

Already read and responded. Let's not get into circular thread discussion.

[DVDDave]

i use mozilla firefox--the best daamn browser around. i have broadband and it opens all my favorite sites when opening. see screen shot. i have all the norton products up to date, i use windows washer, and i also use spysweeper--both by webroot. like i said before--SP2 is doing something to make hard core useres like us experience diminished performance with SP2. i will not go back.

[bazooka]

I was not calling you an idiot.

But it is funny, I am a hardcore user and I do not have problems with SP2.

Several others on this site do not either.

[bazooka]

[quote="DVDDave"]i use windows washer.

That is a major problem right there. You do not need Windows Washer. I have seen it crash several systems so badly, the os needed to be reinstalled.

I use firefox as well.

SP2 is a rewriting of the XPkernel.

I also forgot to mention that microsoft is going to stop the support for sp1 soon.

When a new service pack comes out, they only support the old service pack for about a year, so the time is ticking.

[stryker]

With SP2 installed my Sony VAIO PC takes 3 to 4 times longer to shut down, is this normal?

[bazooka]

With SP2 installed my Sony VAIO PC takes 3 to 4 times longer to shut down, is this normal?

No

[stiltman]

I have SP4 installed and have no problems at all.

My system didn't run any slower or faster after installing it

[stryker]

With SP2 installed my Sony VAIO PC takes 3 to 4 times longer to shut down, is this normal?

No

Damn! I don't know what to do then. I wonder why it's taking longer to shutdown now.

[stiltman]

If I were y'all, I would skip SP1 thru SP3 and just install SP4. Why are y'all playing with SP2 in the first place?

[tekkieman]

If I were y'all, I would skip SP1 thru SP3 and just install SP4. Why are y'all playing with SP2 in the first place?

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Time warp, perhaps?

[stiltman]

If I were y'all, I would skip SP1 thru SP3 and just install SP4. Why are y'all playing with SP2 in the first place?

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Time warp, perhaps?

Huh?
Haven't done the Time Warp since the Rocky Horror Picture Show days

[bazooka]

Ok I will try a new approach

To everyone having issues, go back to SP1.

Is that better tekkie?