No audio in Fahrenheit 9/11

[bappida69]

Hi,

I was trying to back up Fahrenheit 9/11 and I extracted all the files using DVD Decrypter. But when I open the main VOB files on my computer, I don't hear any sound. But for all the extras, I can hear sound loud and clear. This is the first time I am seeing this sort of anomaly.

Any thoughts??

Thanks.

[yoda313]

Hello,

Try dvdshrink.

Kevin

[gastorgrab]

The VOB's from the main movie contain more than one soundtrack. You can use DVD Decrypter Stream Processing to remap the (usually largest audio stream) corrct stream to Ex080 (syntax probably not correct, but you get the idea). Better yet, uncheck all but the largest ac3 stream.

What your hearing (nothing) might be a DTS stream, and if you don't have a decoder for DTS.......

When you rip a DVD in file mode, with all the audio streams, it seems to reverse the order on playback through WinMedia Player. I usually hear the soundtrack in another language. If only one audio stream is present then the order can't change. Open up the VOB in TMPGEnc "MPEG-Tools / Demultiplex" and you can see if more than one stream exists.

You may have noticed that DVD2AVI gives you the option to select the audio stream you want.

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On a side note, i havn't seen that movie yet, but I heard a rumor that it's full of subliminal messages. Have you noticed anything "out-of-the-ordinary" with it?

[Faustus]

Let me give you a transcript of the audio:

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Hi! I'm Michael Moore!
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There, see - you didn't miss much at all, now did you?

Please the guy asked for tech help. Lets not take this thread polical or I'll lock it up.

[ddlooping]

Hi all.

bappida69, try opening the main IFO file instead.

[Grimey]

Click my sig if you want to talk about michael moore

as for the problem, i'd go with what yoda said. Try using DVDshrink.

[Martyn1980]

Why do people have to bring they're politial beliefs into it, I neither know nor care whats true or not in this film, its great entertainment.

This DVD only has a Dolby track so its not a DTS problem.

Did you rip it in File Mode, If so try IFO mode, and vice versa.

Does the sound play when you play the DVD from the IFO file rather than the vobs?

[steve2713]

I neither know nor care whats true or not in this film, its great entertainment.

I'm sorry, but that just pisses me off. I'm sure it is easier to see it as just 'entertainment' if you're not in the U.S. 'It's great entertainment' - this movie and this man make a lot of peoples' blood boil, because of the way he attacks MY PRESIDENT, OUR President, with his lies. He has a right to lie and sell all of the movies he wants, but people that support our president won't just sit and take it. I know it may not be right to make this post into a political one, but when this movie is even mentioned, you're going to get political opinions, right or wrong.

You are in breach of the forum rules and are being issued with a formal warning. https://www.videohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1077720#1077720 ?
/ Moderator Baldrick

[Baldrick]

Never just play vob files from a dvd if you want to check if it works. Use a software dvd player like powerdvd,windvd,media player classic and open the video_ts folder or the video_ts.ifo file and play it as a regular dvd.

[gastorgrab]

Never just play vob files from a dvd if you want to check if it works. Use a software dvd player like powerdvd,windvd,media player classic and open the video_ts folder or the video_ts.ifo file and play it as a regular dvd.

I know Media Player Classic can use the mapping in the *.IFO file to identify the proper audio but would Morgan Stream Switcher allow you to choose the correct stream in WinMedia Player (does it work with *.VOB)?

[MackemX]

what are you using to play the VOB files?

I'm sure there is at least one player that pick up different audio in the VOB and allows you to switch streams. Any ideas anyone?

I know WMP9 gets on my nerves when I click a VOB to play as it tries to play the DVD if it smells an IFO in the same folder so I never use that

[gastorgrab]

@ Mackem X

I have PowerDVD installed but i prefer to use Media Player Classic. I was just curious about Morgan Stream Switcher.

[MackemX]

@gastorgrab, oops I was directing it at bappida69 as he didn't say which player he was using

as you asked, does MPC & Morgan combo allow you to switch streams when playing VOB only?

[gastorgrab]

@gastorgrab, oops I was directing it at bappida69 as he didn't say which player he was using

as you asked, does MPC & Morgan combo allow you to switch streams when playing VOB only?

Media Player Classic has it's own switcher.

[bappida69]

Thanks for all the responses. I had ripped ALL the files in DVD Decrypter(File Mode) to my Hard Drive. Then I used Power DVD to try opening the main VOB files in the Video_TS folder. But there was no sound. But when I open all the extras with Power DVD, those files have sound.

Even while opening the files in DVD Shrink, I can see just one audio track. I backed up using DVD Shrink as well. But there was no sound.

Any more suggestions.

Thanks..

[Teutatis]

Great movie!

I backed it up with DVDShrink. The movie has only a Dolby Digital 5.1 soundtrack and fits on one disk without compression.

[bappida69]

Update.. After using DVD Shrink to backup the movie to a +RW, I played it on my DVD player and lo and behold there was sound!!

Not sure what is happening on the computer with the files though. This is the first time I have seen this.

[MackemX]

@bappida69, what version of powerdvd are you using?

powerdvd 4 and above have 5.1 sound but I don't think version 3 has

you need to open the IFO's and not the VOB's with powerdvd also

@gastorgrab, I've seen that but I don't think it works

[bappida69]

I have Power DVD Version 4(I was looking at the Users manual and it supports Dolby Digital 5.1 sound). I am not sure about opening the IFO's and not the VOBs. The VOBs always, without any exception, works fine for all files!! I guess I am trying to figure the reason so I know whats missing.

Thanks.

[MackemX]

you open the IFO's with PowerDVD 4 to play the DVD as normal

open PowerDVD and on the control panel click the little drive icon to the left of the play button (you may have different intrerface). Select Open DVD File on Hard Disk Drive (not Open Media Files) and browse to the DVD folder. All you will see are IFO's and not VOB's. Select the VIDEO_TS.IFO and it will play the DVD

[bappida69]

Opening the IFO's had the sound!! Not sure why the VOB did not though..

Thanks

[MackemX]

it's probably because the audio is not in stream 0x80 (stream 1) which is what PowerDVD plays and only ever plays by default when playing a VOB

I would take a guess that the extras are using stream 0x80 for dolby 2.0 throughout the DVD. The movie will be using something like stream 0x81 which will be 5.1 and why PowerDVD plays no audio

this info about the audio streams is in the IFO is shown in the bottom half of the window when you open it with IFOEdit

at least you know how to play the DVD using the IFO's now

[ddlooping]

Glad to be of help.

[archaeo]

Anyone applied DVD Rebuilder on this one yet?

[Intuit]

I neither know nor care whats true or not in this film, its great entertainment.

I'm sorry, but that just pisses me off. I'm sure it is easier to see it as just 'entertainment' if you're not in the U.S. 'It's great entertainment' - this movie and this man make a lot of peoples' blood boil, because of the way he attacks MY PRESIDENT, OUR President, with his lies. He has a right to lie and sell all of the movies he wants, but people that support our president won't just sit and take it. I know it may not be right to make this post into a political one, but when this movie is even mentioned, you're going to get political opinions, right or wrong.

You are in breach of the forum rules and are being issued with a formal warning. https://www.videohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1077720#1077720 ?
/ Moderator Baldrick

Your blindly led guy, wake up and smell the corruption. Do the research on your own and you will see that Mr. Moore is not as full of it as conservatives like to claim....

You are in breach of the forum rules and are being issued with a formal warning.
/ Moderator Baldrick

[Baldrick]

Can't you read??
"Please the guy asked for tech help. Lets not take this thread polical or I'll lock it up."

topic locked.

[ddlooping]

Quick, I gotta write a post before it gets locked.....


:P

[archaeo]

....it'll probably be safe to unlock it after nov 2 :P

[Baldrick]

trying again

topic locked.