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  1. Title says it all.

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    After spending several hours researching, I've come up completely empty.

    One would think this should be a given in any program that burns images, but for cue/bin, this very simple, simple feature, is simply not to be found.

    Not in Nero, Alcohol, Recordnow, Blindwrite, UltraIso, ISOBuster, VCDEasy, (WinOnCD/DVD and InstantCopy don't do cue/bin at all), even damn CDRwin itself-- Is it just me or is that not insane? What's wrong with these authors?

    I know I can scan for read errors with many prgs (Nero CD Speed, etc), but that requires additional steps. BIG PIA when you have many cue/bins to burn.. And just because it's "readable", doesn't necessarily mean the data is correct. AFAIK, since the block size of VCD is larger than that for a data CD, you loose some error correcting info in exchange for more "space" on the CD (thereby 800MB on a 700MB CD), so you could have bit-errors which could lead to blocky or jumpy playback at times.

    There still is no program which will simply:
    Open a cue/bin file, burn it and automatically verify the burned CD versus the cue/bin image on the hard drive, the way many many programs (Nero, Recordnow, etc.) will burn an ISO (or img, etc.), then, if the option is selected, verify the CD. No user intervention required.

    Recordnow even goes one step further, and allows one to verify any CD/DVD to an existing image on the HD, which is great, since my NEC ND-2500a is a horrible reader, and reports read errors often on many discs (DVDs at least) it burns. Because of that, I don't even bother to verify images on the NEC (when burning DVD's). I burn them there, but place the disc into the DVD-Rom and choose "Only Verify", to verify them manually as a second step. I know this is not really what I said I wanted, but the 2500a is really a POS reader (at least for DVD's. Not sure w/CD's).

    (Actually, this all applies to mds/mdf files as well, since Alcohol has no verify option at all).

    If I can ever find a program which will conquer this obviously Herculean task, it will certainly be an instant hall of famer for me.

    sheesh.
    [/Rant]

    Why do I want this? So I can burn cue/bin's (and maybe mds/mdf's too) unattended.

    In my experience with various CD/DVD-ReWriters (Lite-On, NEC's, etc) and CD media, if burn-proof (etc) is activated for any reason at any time during an (S)VCD burn, that disc will invariably exhibit playback problems (as stated above). So, to be 100% sure the CD burned 100% correctly, I am forced to sit there and stare at the light to be sure burn-proof never was activated throughout the burn, since of course, no burning prg I'm aware of will tell you if burn-proof was activated during a burning session.

    Surely others must be experiencing this as well.

    TIA
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    The ONLY problem I have ever had with bin/cue files is, if you download them of the net (or from an unknown source) you have a 50/50 chance that someone has changed the burn mode in the .cue for a joke (from say mode2 to mode1).............the quickest way of telling (faster than letting software check for errors) is to just play the damn disc......OR

    ..... if using bin/cues from an unknown source just write the .cue file yourself (saves tears!)....or open as an .iso and set the burn mode manually.

    Dont forget to 'mount' the bin first with Alcohol or Daemon Tools first to check the bin is OK in the first place.

    PS. your hardware/software/disks must be REALLY CRAP if your having problems with CD's and burn proof.....or does the problem exist between the chair and the pc
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  3. Originally Posted by monzie
    The ONLY problem I have ever had with bin/cue files is, if you download them of the net (or from an unknown source) you have a 50/50 chance that someone has changed the burn mode in the .cue for a joke (from say mode2 to mode1).............the quickest way of telling (faster than letting software check for errors) is to just play the damn disc......OR

    ..... if using bin/cues from an unknown source just write the .cue file yourself (saves tears!)....or open as an .iso and set the burn mode manually.

    Dont forget to 'mount' the bin first with Alcohol or Daemon Tools first to check the bin is OK in the first place.

    PS. your hardware/software/disks must be REALLY CRAP if your having problems with CD's and burn proof.....or does the problem exist between the chair and the pc
    No problems with hardware, discs, etc.

    No prb with the bin/cue themselves.

    The problem is just inherent with burning whilst having a measurable load on your system (especially disk access; unless u have RAID config).

    I've noticed this on many different hardware/software combos over the years.

    And as I've said above, while burn-proof can kick in and save your disc from ruination in a data session, burn-proof is a ruination for VCD's for the reasons I stated in the OP.

    Thats why I want verify. I cant understand why no s/w implements it.

    Yes. I always mount 1st and do a cursory check, and yes, I have been guilty of using crap media from time to time (weve all gotten freebee media ), but that is irrelevant to what Im telling u here. I've been doing this a loong time..
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