Australians chew mice to win holiday

[Conquest10]

Australians chew mice to win holiday

Two Australian men may be prosecuted after they chewed live mice and bit off their tails as part of a pub competition to win a holiday.
The RSPCA called the incident "outrageous" and said it would seek the maximum penalty against the men.

RSPCA chief inspector Byron Hall said they could face two years in prison and fines of A$75,000 (US$52,050).

The Brisbane hotel where the contest took place condemned it and said it would not happen again.

Mr Hall said both men put mice in their mouths and bit off their tails. One of the men went on to further chew his mouse then spat it out.

They were taking part in a "Jackass promotion" - named after a US TV stunt show - which took place on Wednesdays at the Exchange Hotel in Brisbane and involved undertaking dares, one of the hotel's managers told BBC News Online.

It was not clear who organised the promotions, but Marie Middleton said they had now been stopped.

"The whole incident was horrific," said Ms Middleton.

"It was all supposed to be harmless fun," she said, adding that the hotel had now "tightened management procedures 100%".

She said the hotel was assisting the RSPCA (Royal Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals) in their investigations.

A Queensland state minister, Henry Palaszczuk, urged anyone with information to contact the RSPCA.

The winner is still being sought, while the other competitor has already been interviewed.

"Chewing a mouse and spitting it out is not entertainment, it is barbaric," said Mr Palaszczuk.

"All animals deserve respect. How we treat animals is a measure of how civilized our society is," he said.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/3797103.stm

[Tommyknocker]

I think it's going too far when you try to give animals the same protections as people. Although it is sick and disgusting what the men did, the SPCA are really out of whack, in my opinion. I remember when I was living in Arizona, they tried to prosecute a man for killing a rat by smashing his skull.

Someone telll the SPCAs: We have dominion over the animals, not vice versa.

P.S. As a sign of personal protest, I had fried shrimp last night, and I bit off everything but the tails. Let me know if the SPCA wants my address, I'll be at home.

[offline]

A typical catholic view. We are not lord of the animals, we live and
interact in the same biosphere. Needless suffering of any animal
is totally wrong and should be stopped. Life is a web, not
a dictatorship.

[Tommyknocker]

Have it your way, even though I'm not Catholic. Keep thinking men should pay fines for destroying vermin if you like, but I see no logic in it.

[Cobra]

Well, it was cruel and pointless what they did. I think they should get some form of punishment/fine at least.

We have dominion over the animals

This is not an excuse in my opinion. Whilst I agree on the "food chain" aspect, when the action has no point then it becomes unacceptable.

Just my thoughts...

Cobra

[jeex]

wow, that is pretty sick.. maybe kill the mice first?

2 years in prison and a hefty fine is too far.. i'd say an ass kicking would be fair. hey, do they still "boot" people in australia??

[offline]

"could face two years in prison "

Animal abusers rarely get gaol time in Australia.
They most likely will get a suspended sentence and
walk free with a $1,000 fine. Same goes for those
who skin and kill cats and people who set fire
to dogs.

Yes Jeex the boot still exists. Costs just a few dollars
to get the full names and addresses of criminals.

[VCDHunter]

Needless suffering of any animal
is totally wrong and should be stopped. Life is a web, not
a dictatorship.

Try thinking like that at 6 in the morning when that ******* dog behind me has been yapping for 20 minutes straight. I'm not an animal hater but that little ****** deserves to have his head bitten off. I wouldn't do it to win a holiday though, simply to stop him waking me up every day.

[Guest]

Truly disgusting.However, what if you give your pet snake a mouse and it does the same thing? What is the difference. Whats next , goldfish eating contests?

[Tommyknocker]

I already agreed it is very disgusting. I just don't think it should be a crime. The little vermin transmit diseases and parasites and the fewer of them running around the better.

[offline]

Well VCDHunter,

you could

a) complain to the neighbor
b) complain to the local authority OR
c) do what I did: play old Frank Sinatra records at high volume
1st thing in the morning and place a speaker outside. Problem was
solved within 3 days. They promised to walk their dog and the barking
stopped. Then my dog started barking at 3am

what if you give your pet snake a mouse and it does the same thing?

Zoo policy in my country is to anesthetize live mice prior to feeding
and where possible, serve chloroformed dead mice.

Why am I thinking of that scene in Road Trip

[flaninacupboard]

"could face two years in prison "

Animal abusers rarely get gaol time in Australia.
They most likely will get a suspended sentence and
walk free with a $1,000 fine. Same goes for those
who skin and kill cats and people who set fire
to dogs.

Yes Jeex the boot still exists. Costs just a few dollars
to get the full names and addresses of criminals.

So you can buy the details of convicted criminals? does that cover any crime? i'm just imagining the Sun buying the list here and going on a rampage....

[VCDHunter]

Well VCDHunter,

you could

a) complain to the neighbor
b) complain to the local authority OR
c) do what I did: play old Frank Sinatra records at high volume
1st thing in the morning and place a speaker outside. Problem was
solved within 3 days. They promised to walk their dog and the barking
stopped. Then my dog started barking at 3am

a) did that
b) did that
c) I'd just end up pissing off the whole neighbourhood doing that.

I think I may try option d) Poison Steak.

[Capmaster]

Would a restaurant get in trouble for serving fresh lobster?

[Cobra]

what if you give your pet snake a mouse and it does the same thing? What is the difference.

Hey, it's called the food chain. When I'm hungry, I have to eat!

Cobra

[Capmaster]

I don't see anything wrong with observing the food chain. I mean, why else were cows put here ...for their reasoning skills?

But cruel torture of animals for one's own enjoyment is just wrong. :P

[VCDHunter]

But cruel torture of animals for one's own enjoyment is just wrong. :P

Unless they're vinyl, obviously :P

[Capmaster]

But cruel torture of animals for one's own enjoyment is just wrong. :P

Unless they're vinyl, obviously :P

You got me on that one

[offline]

VCDhunter said I think I may try option d) Poison Steak.

One of my dogs was poisoned. She died in agony. A
beautiful friend and loving companion that hurt nobody.

I'd like to try option d) on you, after I took care of your
family, friends and anyone I thought you cared about.
I hope what you said was just a crass joke. Even so, there is
an old Russian proverb:

mountains never meet but people do.

[pacmania_2001]

I know the club where that took place, about 20 minutes from my house.

Used to be good but now the male to female ratio is fucked and all you get is "metrosexual" poofs wearing stripey shirts and gelled hair.

This is just another reason not to go there.

[offline]

Pac,

is that in Edward St ?

[pacmania_2001]

Yeh, across from the Victory.

[VCDHunter]

VCDhunter said I think I may try option d) Poison Steak.

One of my dogs was poisoned. She died in agony. A
beautiful friend and loving companion that hurt nobody.

Well, I'm sorry for that and had I know about your circumstance I would probably avoided the subject.

I'd like to try option d) on you, after I took care of your
family, friends and anyone I thought you cared about.
I hope what you said was just a crass joke. Even so, there is
an old Russian proverb:

mountains never meet but people do.

If you do have make threats against people on the net at least have the balls to do it properly. The shit above makes you sound about 12. Where the hell is the vulgarity or obscenities ? Where are the threats of actual physical violence ? I note you've included veiled threats against friends and family - well why hold back ? You could have included a multitude of insults here but instead you've gone, lamely I might add, for bold text But the crowning turd in the waterpipe is that you finish with a Russian proverb Now who the **** do you think is gonna be scared by that ?

[offline]

What part of

I'd like to try option

did you not understand?

Well, I'm sorry for that and had I know about your circumstance I would probably avoided the subject.

And what kind of person makes those kinds of statements
regardless of circumstances I wonder?

If you do have make threats against people on the net at least have the balls to do it properly

And your balls are big because you threaten dogs ?

I note you've included veiled threats against friends and family

and I note you have directly threatened the life of your neighbours dog

Now who the **** do you think is gonna be scared by that ?

No one. It was not meant to scare. Anyway cowards like you are always
full of bluff and hot air when they think no consequences will arise.

you sound about 12.

and you sound like a cowardly animal abuser.

[Capmaster]

I don't think offline and VCDHunter will be on each other's Christmas Card list

Two Australian men may be prosecuted after they chewed live mice and bit off their tails as part of a pub competition to win a holiday.

That just goes to show "Mice guys finish last".

[VCDHunter]

Too much quoting for me to reply to that in context.

Firstly let me start off by saying that I made a glib off the cuff remark about a poison steak, which was meant as a joke, which you have taken to heart for obvious reasons. For this I apologise, unreservedly. I would also like to take this oportunity to point out that I in no way advocate the abuse or mistreatment of animals (except for next doors cat, but thats another story*).

You also seem to have taken to heart my jibes about your "threat" to me now this I just don't get. I was simply try to offer a helping hand with some constructive criticism and you've either failed to understand or are simply being obtuse.

Now the positives -

What part of

Quote:
I'd like to try option

did you not understand?

Sarcasm, good. If you can lead in with this all the better.

Quote:
Now who the **** do you think is gonna be scared by that ?


No one. It was not meant to scare. Anyway cowards like you are always
full of bluff and hot air when they think no consequences will arise.

Excellent - open ended with just a hint of a concealed threat. I myself would have substituted the word bluff with shit, but as this thread proves we are very different.

Quote:
you sound about 12.

and you sound like a cowardly animal abuser.

This for me was the highlight - sharp, snappy and to the point. Here you could have thrown a few random swear words, but why ? At a push I'd say you could have thrown in ******* before cowardly but I think that would only to distract the reader from the almost poetic beauty of the phrase "cowardly animal abuser".

Well I'm out as footie is on soon. Post back with semantics if you want but I'm done.

*JOKE

[vitualis]

Firstly, this thread has gotten out of hand so I will lock it.

Secondly, whether we "dominate" over animals or not is irrelevant. In Western civil society, people are expected to behave in a humane / not-intentionally cruel manner to animals, and in most societies, this is codified in law.

The RSPCA in Australia is simply doing its job in terms of policing. I don't think anyone can truly argue that this stunt was anything but deliberately and intentially cruel.

Best regards.