The best backup method known to man.....

[Xtreme]

Ok people i think i got the best method to backing up my DVD's. Yes the way i am going to show you will let keep you menus, extras, etc, but allow for the best possible encoding for the movie itself. I dont have any guides on this yet, but i will work on something if people are interested.

1). Dvddecrypter - rip all files to Hard Drive.
2). Open DVDshrink > compression the menus, extra's, but no compression on the main movie. Also keep all subtitles and audio tracks. The reason for keeping all this is because another program will end up taking these extra tracks out later.
3). Now open DVD-Rebuilder > for installation, setup, etc, just go check out the forums at www.doom9.org. Once you open DVD-RB you will add the source dest. of your new folder which DVD-shrink just got done compressing. DVD-Rebuilder will transcode, encode and then rebuild your DVD, it will keep all the menus, extras, etc. With this program it will use CCE to encode the main movie to the best possible quality.

This is just a simple run down in what i do to rebuild my DVD's. Alot of time if the movie itself is under 4.7 gigs but with the extras it is over 6 gigs, i would just use IFOedit to make my new new files, so it is just the movie only. No extras, menus, etc.
I will try and come out with a guide A.S.A.P so you can all get a good visual on what i am doing. It is really simple, but can be very time consuming during the encode. But you cant beat the quality encoding done by CCE.

Even thought this is not a full on guide, let me know what you all think, and if you have already used this method.

I take no responsibility for the things i said here in this post. You take your own ricks.

[offline]

Step 2 seems a waste and reduces quality too much imo.
Just select 1/2 D1 for the extras and menus using RB.

[Xtreme]

Your right, but i have 1/2 D1 selected for the menus and extras and my menu was the same size when the whole process was finished. And it enocoded the movie with less room because the menu,extras,etc were 648 megs. Granted my method of this would only be best used when you have alot of extras, etc. If you shrink it with DVD-shrink then DVD-Rebuilder will compress it even more. =) I personally dont care if my menus,extras are great quality or not, i just want my movie to be excellent quality. Your probably asking now why dont i just remove extras,menus,etc and just have the movie. Well sometimes i want to keep the menus for like TV series, and some other shows. I also use the method of just removing everything but the movie. I use this method when the movie alone is way to big.

[vioxx]

Movie only back up with elby Clone DVD.

Most the time NO need to compresive at all.

Only take 40 to 50 min to finish one DVD.

[Xtreme]

Vioxx: What if the movie is 6+ gigs .... there has to be compression and the only tool that does the best compression is CCE. Nothing else compares to the quality. In theory the faster you encode the less the quality you getting.

[energy80s]

Occassionally I would re-encode with TMPG but usually I just split the files onto 2 x DVDRs.

Lets face facts, we are only killing time until dual layer burners hit the streets in large numbers (probably for Christmas).

[vioxx]

Hi Xtreme'

Is CCE better than DVD2One?

I used DVD2One before, but not CCE yet.

Thanks for the tip.

[Xtreme]

CCE is way better than DVD2one..... CCE takes alot longer to encode depending on how many passes you want on your movie. But if your going for quality then use CCE. I use DVD2DVD-R all the time as well, this program is one of the best also, DVD2DVD-r utilizes CCE to encode, but it dont allow you to keep the menus or subtitles.

[vioxx]

DVD2DVDR

"This tool is so simple a monkey could do it:...."
Posted September 27, 2003 by ParaDoX667.

The best part: Freeware



I will try...


Thanks all

[vioxx]

Few weeks ago, I did DVD-9 to DVD-5 back up in 3 steps:

(1) Rip: using DVDXRescue (Part of DVDXCopy Platinum v3.2.1) to rip DVD-9 into HDD;
(2) Shrink: DVD2One v1.40 for movies only compression.
(3) Burn: CopyToDVD v3 to burn into DVD-5.

Reason: Some of my 'old' back up DVD-5 (did with DVDShrink) can't play on my Pioneer DVD player. I call them 'PC-only DVD-5'

"Lets face facts, we are only killing time until dual layer burners hit the streets in large numbers": energy80s


Yes, back up for fun

[spiffy]

Xtreme:

How much are you Shrinking before Rebuilding? I don't mind lowering qualities on the extras (especially with previews, etc), but I don't want any pixelation at all. And which version of Shrink are you using?

Thanks,

Spiffy

[Xtreme]

I am shrinking them all the way using DVD-shrink 3.1.7..... DVD-Rebuilder will do the same thing, but with better quality i think. Yesterday i was doing Jerry Mcquire and it didnt shrink my menu, so i had to use DVD-shrink to shrink the menu and then use DVD-Rebuilder. Like i said, if the movie itself is way to big then i just use DVD2DVD-R, which is without menu,extras,etc. that way my movie quality is not jepordised. If the movie, extras,menu,etc all together are slightly over 4.7 gigs then i use DVD-Rebuilder. And everyone is right, we are just killing time until the DVD9 burners come out. Once those come out thought the new DVD disks will be HD-DVD disks which hold up to 30 gigs. I am not sure when the new HD-DVD disks are coming out, but i think it would be a waste of time if they come out with the DVD9 burners. ... they should come out with the HD-DVD burners. =)

[Thunder In Paradise]

Rip to HD with DVD Decrypter, strip with DVDShrink, and burn with CloneDVD. BOOM!

[Xtreme]

Or ... rip with DVDdecrypter > strip with IFOedit > burn with nero.

[Xtreme]

Or ....DVDdecrypter to rip > DVD2DVDR to strip and re-encode if movie is too big > DVDlab to reauthor > nero to burn.

[Xtreme]

Everyone has there own method of getting there DVD done ...it just picking the way you want to get it done and what your satisfied with in quality.

[djmattyb]

When I make a backup, I only want one audio track and the best video quality I can get. I just set up DVDShrink/Nero and put a blank in the writer - 15 minutes later - my backup is ready. Can you beat that?

[Xtreme]

djmattyb - if you want only 1 audio track and best video quality then use DVD2DVD-R this program utlizes CCE as its encoder, which is by far the best quality you can get when it comes to encode on your movie. Yes using DVD2DVD-R with CCE will take 12 hrs to encode, but it is better quality than DVDshrink. Dont get me wrong i am not knocking DVDshrink and its makers. DVDshrink is one of the best programs seen for most people just starting into backing up movies. Now what would be even better is if DVDshrink used CCE as its encoding engine. With DVD2DVD-R and CCE you can make it encode faster if you change how many VBR passes you want on your movie. The lower you go on passes the worse the video will be. But even at 1 pass VBR you will still have a very high quality video. I use anywhere between 3 -5 passes which takes anywhere between 8 - 12 hrs. I just run the program right before i go to work... come home and its done, just burn.

[MackemX]

Rip to HD with DVD Decrypter, strip with DVDShrink, and burn with CloneDVD. BOOM!

Or ... rip with DVDdecrypter > strip with IFOedit > burn with nero.

Or ....DVDdecrypter to rip > DVD2DVDR to strip and re-encode if movie is too big > DVDlab to reauthor > nero to burn

can I ask what you are stripping and also what you are aiming to do with theses above methods

DVDShrink can only strip audio but if you are talking about reauthouring then you are adding video to a completely new menu non functioning DVD and mentioning stripping is totally misleading to newbies etc

if you don't want to keep menu functions then there are so many ways to skin a cat now basically and it depends on how you want it to look afterwards and what tools you have to do it as to which path you choose

regarding those two mentioned above(not DVD2DVDR one), which sound like movie only then why not just rip with DVDShrink direct and rip only what you need instead of the complete DVDz @100%?

as for Ifoedit stripping, it also has it limits regarding stripping and knowing what I know now I wouldn't use it for stripping a DVD. I recommend that you use one of the later tools (VOBBlanker/Titleset Blanker/DVDRemake) for stripping but keeping functioning menu's along with fewer playback issues

Using a hybrid of tools to shrink the DVD has been around a while and again it's all down to the 'cat' thing

[Xtreme]

Or ... rip with DVDdecrypter > strip with IFOedit > burn with nero

Ok this method i use for ripping the disk to the hard drive, and then with IFOedit i "Strip"(remove) the extra audio, and subtitles. Then burn with Nero. I have never had a problem with playback with this method.

Or ....DVDdecrypter to rip > DVD2DVDR to strip and re-encode if movie is too big > DVDlab to reauthor > nero to burn

DVDdecrypter to rip movie to hard drive, then DVD2DVD-R to "strip"(remove) extra audio and subtitles. I use this method when the movie alone is over 5.8+ gigs, so i can compress(re-encode) the movie so it is below 4.7 gigs and is it at its best quality. Then use DVD-Lab to re-author back to a DVD compliant .VOB format.

[handyguy]

OP didn't mention dvd5 originals.

Decrypter: ISO read, then ISO write.

So easy

[indolikaa]

Or buy a second copy. It's the Jack Valenti way.

[Chip718]

Can someone please tell me what CCE is and is it available for download? Thanks

[vioxx]

CCE: CinemaCraft Encoder

Their wed page: http://www.cinemacraft.com/eng/home.html

DVD2DVDR & CCE trial download here:

(1) http://davis28.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/downloads.htm and
(2) http://davis28.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/downloads2.htm

[Chip718]

Thanks, vioxx. I just downloaded it from Visible Lights. The file is named 'cceb260' Cinema Craft Encoder Basic Setup Program, but when I click on the icon another icon pops up and says 'Windoews cannot open this file "Cinema Craft Encoder Basic.lnk"...did I do something wrong?

[vioxx]

Not sure, sorry

Xtreme might be able to explain to you

[Xtreme]

Not sure you should have gotten a executeable file.

[spiderman2k1]

There is no best it what you like. Some people may say CCE is the best other will say takes to long. Other's will say DVDshrink is the best or cloneDVD or DVD2ONE that there very fast. Other's will say IC8. For me CloneDVD and DVDshrink are the bestfor me. But CCE give's a better picture but I do not have the time for CCE.

[lordsmurf]

To me, time is money.
All this CCE stuff is ridiculous.
It's cheaper to do the Valenti method.

DVD Shrink (or DVD2ONE) or buy another one.

[vioxx]

I don't think that smurf shouldn't be worry about time.

Just joking



So, CCE do give better picture?