Need help!! Made a guide for this site but it has a bug!!!!

[baker]

https://www.videohelp.com/forum/userguides/145182.php

If anybody has seen the above guide they will know its my latest dvd guide.

The idea was that we could copy a dvd and keep the menu bu simply removing the link to the extras. However a problem has occured that the dvd player claims it cannot find all the files. My best guess is that this is as the process which i used for deleteing the extras was simply deleteing the file.

So will all authoring experts plz take a look at the guide and see if they can figure a way I can remove the extras files???

Thanks a lot.

Even if your not sure any guesses will help.

Baker

[Kwulabear]

You can not simply delete any vts without knowing which ones are being used. The best way to find out is to use the dvd play option in ifoedit and note the title sets it takes to get to the movie.

So maybe try this:

Load up the dvd into ifoedit
Use ifoedit's dvd player
Write down what vts are being used to reach the main movie.

You can safely delete ones that are not and remove the links off the main menu.

Bear

[baker]

Right you see none of you have coped on to the problem. Something which I never knew about and I guess you never either is that the dvd player checks to see if all the files are there. Of course in our case their not. And no you cannot replace them with dummy files I have already tried that. So we need a program for removing vts sets the proper way.

Any ideas?

Baker

[letgoofmyears]

I use a different system, using smart ripper, ifoedit, dvd2one, and ifo update. It also calls for manually deleting files, but I don't bother deleting the buttons from the menu. However, when deleting the extra VTS sets, I always leave the _0 VOBs intact(I just remove those ending in _1 or higher). This has always worked for me and I've never had a player say that files were missing. Maybe the _0 VOBs are needed.

[baker]

Thats a different thing altogether actually....

But is their no body on a site which is now called dvdr help figure out how to remove unwanted VTS sets!!!!

Come one their has to be someone here.

Baker

[letgoofmyears]

No, it's not different. With the exception of deleting the buttons on the main menu, it's exactly the same. You still have to delete the extra VTS sets to make the file size small enough to fit onto a dvd-r. I'm just telling you that if you leave the _0 VOBs and delete the rest, then you shouldn't have any problems whatsoever. Just because you remove the actual button, and thus remove the physical link, doesnt mean that the VIDEO_TS ifo doesn't still require it. It is still going to look for the actual link to those VTS sets. Leaving in the _0 VOBs satisfies that requirement.

Look at it this way. When you copy back in the newly authored movie VOBs, you have to leave the original _0 VOB intact. Why is this? Beacuse this file is REQUIRED by the VIDEO_TS ifo. The same thing applies to the other VTS sets. Just because you never intend to utilize these extra files is irrelevent. The VIDEO_TS ifo doesn't know or care about that. It still needs them.

Also, if you have a small VTS set that doesn't have an _0 VOB, but rather has a small _1 followed by an even smaller _2, you shouldn't remove these either as they're pretty important. I'm not knowledgeable enough to know exactly why this is, but I do know that taking them out will have dire consequences.

[baker]

Right now its time to be honest, I aint actually goping away for a while or anything, i have exams in school so have to study.

When I quickly read your post I tought it wouldnt work and said no. It wasn't until I was later offline that I relized you were right.

I havent had the time to test this method and try it or make more posts, i just check my mails every while and thats how I answered this post.

It will be saturday, possibly wedensday before I fix and update this guide IF me and himself r right.

May I say thatnsk also for your advice as as you can c you were the only one who help is mise.

slan leat,
Baker

[baker]

ah gawd...

heres he current situation.

I delete the extra vob files but not the 0 file bup files or ifo files.

I use ifo edit to update vts things and attermpt to burn wiuth nero.

nero says "error blah blah blag"

Any ideas?? am I just making a ****-up??? I hope so I can get this over with..

Baker

[ol' boozy]

hey bro,
lots of people have problems with nero.
after you get/update the vts sectors in ifoedit, then play the movie
walk through the menues and make sure it all works.
after that, what i do is use imgtools to create a dvd image.
then use dvddecrypter to burn the image to dvd-r.
easy, and free.
peace...

[Kwulabear]

You seem to have missed what I wrote. Maybe I can enlighten you:

Example
DVD has 10 vts sets
VTS_01
VTS_02
VTS_03
VTS_04
VTS_05
VTS_06
VTS_07
VTS_08
VTS_09
VTS_10

Let's say movie is VTS_02, extras are VTS_07, coming to video advertisment VTS_06 and studio logo is VTS_04
We won't worry about the others.

Load up the VIDEO_TS into ifoedit. Click dvd play. It will run through to the main menu. Click on play movie. Exit out of ifoedit's dvd player. Ifoedit will show you which vts's which were used.

Let's say ifoedit shows (in order):
VTS_06
VTS_04
VTS_02

You can delete 1,3,5,7,8,9 and 10 without any problems.

This is how you keep the main menu and movie.

Bear

[baker]

Right first thanks for the replys,

@Kwulabear,
Try this, open up nero and click burn dvd, throw in your files and see what happens, nero will do a file check which "most" dvd players do. Perhaps yours just dosn't make that check? would it be a apex?

Baker

[Kwulabear]

Don't use nero to burn. I use recordnow max. On my pioneer dv-435, have no problems playing it.

Bear

[baker]

Now I see the light, perhaps record now dx fixes the problem. And you dont have to burn with nero, just tell nero your going to burn and see if it produces and error. I dont burn with nero either I use imgtools, just nero identifies the problem easily and most other tooolz wont.

Baker

[letgoofmyears]

The problem I had with Nero was when attempting to burn using the DVD Video option. When using this option, Nero attempts to put the files in the proper order before burning. If it can't it gives you the usual error. However, if you put the files in the correct order before attempting Nero, this problem goes away. At least this has been my experience.

When you copy the authored VOBs into the original DVD folder, Windows doesn't ever put them in the correct sequence. Just put them in the correct order in the folder. Now, again, I don't consider myself an expert. I don't know why this works. It's just beem MY EXPERIENCE that this fixes things. I don't use anything but Nero, so this helped me a lot.

[baker]

Gawd, I tought this would be easy enoguh!!!

Anyway heres the current theory of mine.

Use one of these new fangled transcoders the reencode the extras to no quailty at all, it dosn't matter as we wont see them!!!!!

Then re-encode your main feature if need and bad-a bing bad-a boom!!!

Thanks guys, look a bout this post a bit will you plz to offer advice.

baker

[Leon.]

It is not that hard but you have to do alot of stuff with IfoEdit. In the ifo you have to change how many titlesets are in the video and you have to move the menu. If your movie was not in VTS 1 then you'll have to change all properties in the VIDEO_TS.IFO regarding VTS 1 to match the old VTS # (where the settings for the movie was in the beginning).

[mrbass]

doesn't elby clonedvd supposedly allow this of removing titlesets?

[Ryantje]

It is not that hard but you have to do alot of stuff with IfoEdit. In the ifo you have to change how many titlesets are in the video and you have to move the menu. If your movie was not in VTS 1 then you'll have to change all properties in the VIDEO_TS.IFO regarding VTS 1 to match the old VTS # (where the settings for the movie was in the beginning).

what he said:P

you cant just delete vobs and leave the ifo's and hope it works

if you want to delete a titleset delete it completely and update the main ifo to match the titlesets left