Can I 'match' a blank DVD?

[Will Hay]

I bought some cheap disks which I used to give to family (footage of my little boy).
My brother-in-law said they played fine on his standalone DVD player, but having run out of that particular type started using Ritek GO4's which, amazingly, don't work on his machine!
I'm happy to buy some media for him specifically, but how doI go about ensuring I get one that will play?
I understand I can get the media code from the disks that do play on his machine (I've never done this before though), will this help me try find some more media that his DVD player is compatable with?
I was amazed it wouldn't play the GO4's.
The disks I bought simply say DV3108, is this a recognised brand type/code etc?
I got them from SVP/blankdiskshop/CDR121 (whatever the hell they're called nowadays) in the UK, they're a x2 speed for £0.26 each which, owing to my hacked A07 firmware, I could burn at x6
Many thanks,
Will hAY

[disturbed1]

Put the working discs in your A07 and start DVD Decrpyter. Choose ISO Write mode, and the Media ID will appear on the right.

Perhaps burning a 2x disc at 6x led to the disc not being read.

Nice upgrade btw, LF-D311-A07.

You can try the DV3000 from SVP it's a sample pack. I looked at SVPs site, they seem to mainly sell Ritek and Princo with a couple of Prodisc Printables.

http://www.bigpockets.co.uk has a better selection, if that's an option for you.

[RealaT]

If your discs have a totally white top and a tiny little logo in the rim then they are Posigro discs, which are sadly not available anymore

Shame really because i found these performed excellently at 6x on my 107 and the price was a bargain.

[Will Hay]

Thanks for the post, you think even though they work fine in mine (PC and standalone) because I burnt at x6 means some DVD's won't play them?
Actually, it's the x2 that worked fine, those are the ones I burnt at x6.
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The Ritek G04's are x4 but I hacked my firmware (correct term?) and burnt them at x8. maybe that's the problem

I just ran these disks through DVDidentifier...

Unique Disc Identifier : [DVD-R:SONY]
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Disc Type : [DVD-R]
Manufacturer ID : [SONY]
Disc Application Code : [Unrestricted Use : Consumer Purpose]
Recording Speeds : [1x - (2x)]
Blank Disc Capacity : [2,298,496 Sectors = 4,489.3 MB = 4.38 GB]
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[DVD Identifier - http://DVD.Identifier.CDfreaks.com]
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Mean anything to you?
I'll try the DVDdecrpyter tip now, thanks, and thanks for the link to bigpockets, I'll check them out now.
Will

[Will Hay]

If your discs have a totally white top and a tiny little logo in the rim then they are Posigro discs, which are sadly not available anymore

SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!
The logo, it's a tiny triangle, right?
SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I now need ot find something similar that will work with my families players.
I lik ethe idea of the sample pack but my family aren't local and I only want to use that as a last resort.
Will


EDIT:
This is the information thrown out by DVDdecrypter...

Device Information:
Current Profile: DVD-ROM

Disc Information:
Status: Complete
Erasable: No
Sessions: 1
Sectors: 1,273,275
Size: 2,607,667,200 bytes
Time: 282:59:00 (MM:SS:FF)

Pre-recorded Information:
Manufacturer ID: SONY

Physical Format Information:
Book Type: DVD-R
Part Version: 5
Disc Size: 120mm
Maximum Read Rate: 10.08Mbps
Number of Layers: 1
Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP)
Linear Density: 0.267 um/bit
Track Density: 0.74 um/track

Does that help me find a replacment?
Will

[lordsmurf]

The simple ID "SONY" was often a fake media.

[disturbed1]

Manufacturer ID: SONY

If you want the same discs, you need to find something with the same media ID.

Burning a disc at a faster speed that rated can cause problems. If you have problems with an overclocked burn, try at the rated speed. If it still doesn't work, find other media.

I can only help on the SONY media ID for brands here in the US Sorry. Staples had 4x DVD-R SONY for $10/10 last week, but that of course does you no good.
https://www.videohelp.com/dvdmedia.php?dvdmediasearch=&dvdmediadvdridsearch=sony&type=6&...+or+List+Media

[disturbed1]

The simple ID "SONY" was often a fake media.

As with many discs made by LEAD DATA. These were often mixed into batches of Dup EZ (Rima) and ACCU (Meritline).

[iooi]

The disks I bought simply say DV3108, is this a recognised brand type/code etc?
I got them from SVP/blankdiskshop/CDR121 (whatever the hell they're called nowadays) in the UK, they're a x2 speed for £0.26 each which, owing to my hacked A07 firmware, I could burn at x6
Many thanks,
Will hAY

Well having searched SVP's site i find this about that code..apart from DV 3108 not being avaiable and 26p for a dvd disk seems too cheap for anything but clearance stock.
{DV 3109}1 x Datasafe DVD+RW (4x)
{DV 3107} Verbatim 8x 4.7Gb DVD+R disc in jewel case
Notice they are Both + media. So it would be safe to assume dv 3108 would also be + media.
Now if the G04's are + based Riteks they will have a code of ADVDINFO: RICOHJPNR01 according to SVP's site...
SVp dont list + Format Riteks as G04's. Only the - format ones gets listed as G04's....
Could that be the problem their players will only play + Disks..
Hope this helps.

[disturbed1]

The disks I bought simply say DV3108, is this a recognised brand type/code etc?
I got them from SVP/blankdiskshop/CDR121 (whatever the hell they're called nowadays) in the UK, they're a x2 speed for £0.26 each which, owing to my hacked A07 firmware, I could burn at x6
Many thanks,
Will hAY

Well having searched SVP's site i find this about that code..apart from DV 3108 not being avaiable and 26p for a dvd disk seems too cheap for anything but clearance stock.
{DV 3109}1 x Datasafe DVD+RW (4x)
{DV 3107} Verbatim 8x 4.7Gb DVD+R disc in jewel case
Notice they are Both + media. So it would be safe to assume dv 3108 would also be + media.
Now if the G04's are + based Riteks they will have a code of ADVDINFO: RICOHJPNR01 according to SVP's site...
SVp dont list + Format Riteks as G04's. Only the - format ones gets listed as G04's....
Could that be the problem their players will only play + Disks..
Hope this helps.

In the disc ID above, it clearly states that the SONY disc is DVD-R.

I was on the same thought with the DV 3108 code, as you, until I looked again at the Disc Type in both posts above.

[iooi]

In the disc ID above, it clearly states that the SONY disc is DVD-R.

I was on the same thought with the DV 3108 code, as you, until I looked again at the Disc Type in both posts above.

Dont know how long the poster has had the disks but I've never seen DVD-r's @26p each on SVP's site....
I have been recieving their newsletter now for 6 months ish..which has ALL their special offers. Dam sure i would remember disks that low in price.

[RealaT]

iooi, they were only available for around 3-4 weeks, but they were definitely there because i bought 400 of them while they were cheap.

[Will Hay]

Yeah, I picked up around 150no and wish I'd bought more.
Never though they (my family) might only be able to play DVD+r's but I doubt it, they were listed in the DVD-r section and are listed as same on the invoice.

Dont know how long the poster has had the disks but I've never seen DVD-r's @26p each on SVP's site....
I have been recieving their newsletter now for 6 months ish..which has ALL their special offers. Dam sure i would remember disks that low in price.

Yup, looks like I imagined it
It wasn't in the mailer, it was on the site and listed as '...x1 and x2 speed media is cheaper as manufact. clear their stocks'.
Will Hay

[disturbed1]

It says white top.

Was this a printable top. Feels like a label already on it?

If so, this is the same stuff I mentioned above about ACCU and DupEZ.

These are Lead DATA discs. With a light purple bottom, comparable in color to Princo. The hub is silver I think, have to dig some out

I'd still like to here your feed back on what happens if you reduce the write speed on the G04s.

What did you use with you LF-D311, and did they work on their player?

IF these were the Lead Data discs, burnt at 6x And played fine, why the G04s didn't play

If you have a few of these G04s left, try at 2x/4x to see if it's better, after they run out, get something else.

Also find out what DVD player they use, and check the DVD Player, and media reports for others say about it.

[thor300]

Disks with SONY id are being made in philippines, they are shipped in boxes with Sony written all over them for the local market, which is not legal in western countries, therefore they are sold as unbranded. Fake Sony products is big business in philippines, also Sony tires for motorcycle and bicycle. Philippines is coming up as bigtime manufacturer of DVD media, at very low price and ok quality. At the moment there are 7 big optical disk plants that are for a big part dedicated to making pirated DVD movies, but an increasing number of police raids are forcing them into legal business (at least as a cover-up), so i hope we will see a price-war in DVD media when Philippines changes more over to legal production.

[offline]

Was this a printable top. Feels like a label already on it?

I have some white top SONY x2. They have a clear hub with a raised silver ring. Very cheap but work well. The cover is white but non-printable. Quite a few for sale in OZ.

There are only two brands that I send via post - TY or TDK.
The extra hassle of re-recording makes it worth paying the extra $ IMHO.

[Will Hay]

It says white top.

Was this a printable top. Feels like a label already on it?

No, doesn't feel like a label, it was marketed as inkjet pintable but I'll test that when my Epson R200 arrives tomorrow.



I'll check out your other suggestions (speed, family DVD players etc.), thanks.
As already mentioned, these are posigro disks, I only just noticed the small logo in the rim has this wording in it.



Will

[iooi]

iooi, they were only available for around 3-4 weeks, but they were definitely there because i bought 400 of them while they were cheap.

I stand corrected then..
Now where has that hole gone........

[Will Hay]

I did test this disk with my new Epson R200, it was far from inkjet printable.
Bastards!
It was definately listed on the SVP site as inkjet printable.
Will

[Will Hay]

I'd still like to here your feed back on what happens if you reduce the write speed on the G04s.

As promised, my friend finally came back to me with the results of my test disk; Ritek G04 burnt at x4 rather than x8 worked fine this time.
Thanks for the suggestion, I'd have never reduced the speed time to x4 without your suggestion.

Will Hay


EDITED: Thank you fur-ball

[Craig Tucker]

Ritek G04 burnt at x8 rather than x8, and sure enough it worked fine this time.