27 gig standard CD's

[afish]

http://www.cdfreaks.com/document.php3?Doc=83
Have a look here at the new Blu-Ray discs coming in a few years time. Toshiba have promised a 35 gig and by 2007, a 120 gig disc is not out of the question. Just think the Lord of the Rings Trilogy on ONE disc WITH Extras.

[MOVIEGEEK]

As I always say:good concept but if no standalones support the format
why bother.(i.e DVD-RAM,Sony 1.3GB,Sanyo 1.4GB,etc.)

[adam]

Actually ALL dvd players will support the format eventually. Well not necessarily blue ray itself but all the major dvd player manufacturers have already committed to switching to blue laser technology in the very near future. The current agreed upon format is simply called "blue laser" and is very similar to blue ray. Anyway I believe the first players will be out next year sometime and the burners are scheduled only a year or two after that. The blue laser dvd players will be backward compatible with the current red laser dvds we use now. So within 5-6 years from now when you go to the store all you will see are blue laser dvds.

[Jo]

WOW that is alot we have not even got the 8.5 layer yet
let alone 27GB

[Sam Ontario]

WOW that is alot we have not even got the 8.5 layer yet
let alone 27GB

IBM 8088XT had 640k memory was "a lot" when compared with Apple 6502's 16k!

[BobV]

I can't believe I'm say this but when is it all going to stop? It's a little tireing trying to keep up.

maybe I'm just getting old..

[georgepds]

maybe I'm just getting old..

Yeah... I know what you mean. i felt the same whe I hit 18

And... it will never stop. You'd need evry bit of theos 27 GB for holographic video

[SLK001]

WOW that is alot we have not even got the 8.5 layer yet let alone 27GB

The 8.5GB burnable disk will probably just be an interim standard. The DVD spec will probably be upgraded soon to accomodate the higher resolutions and different modes of HDTV and to reflect the needed increase in bitrates to properly present them.

[SaSi]

I discovered this forum when it was known as www.vcdhelp.com.

As soon as DVDs became popular, it obtained 2 more aliases, svcdhelp and dvdrhelp.com.

Now, everyone knows it as www.dvdrhelp.com

When blue ray disks become popular, will the forum be renamed into

www.bluerayhelp.com ?

Don't think it will fit on the top left corner banner

(just felt like posting a joke)...

[SLK001]

Will the next DVD standard be called S-DVD (for Super DVD? Or maybe DVDX (for DVD eXtended)? Or, HD-DVD (for High Definition DVD)? Let's lobby for one of these so Baldrick won't have too much trouble sqeezing the new moniker into the logo!

[Jo]

27GB is nothing in about 6 years from now they will have a new disk that can hold around 470GB. and it wont stop there i tell you, read on about the new disk that can hold 470GB.



RICOH Japan announced a new study about a upcoming format called DVD100. This new format supports 3D-multilayer writing with capacities up to 470GB (x100 DVD capacity). This technology will also use 12cm discs and its commercial use is shedduled for the 2010 year!
As RICOH says (translation comes from Japanese)"...The way to optical disc birth which can be written in the record layer piled up many layers like pie cloth was able to be cultivated. It is said that the 100 or more time thing information on what and DVD is recordable. Ricoh did research and development in the basic technology of this "3-dimensional multilayer record" in collaboration with Osaka University.

The demand to "large-scale-izing of record media" has a strong thing. For example, a high definition high quality TV image is set to no less than 20GB by part for 2 hour. Furthermore, birth of the record media which are easy to use with large scale is desired now [ when it progresses to high definition-ization

Although "Blu-ray Disc" with the capacity of 27GB is commercialized as next-generation media of DVD, this sets to about 1/5 of DVD area (optical spot) as which blue laser is adopted and which laser light hits, and is pulling up record density 5 times.

Although it is necessary to make optical spot small in order to make a small record mark, since the focal length of a lens becomes short for the reason and the distance of a lens and a disk is shortened, it is becoming difficult physically.

Then, the way of thinking of recording a many layers record layer on each class in piles like pie cloth was produced.

The theoretical backing as research of a university is produced several years ago. In order to advance the "utilization", in Optoelectronic Industry and Technology Development Association, each university and a maker cooperate and research and development in basic technology is done. Ricoh took charge of and did research and development in the technology recorded and reproduced by "application of the conventional optical system" in the multilayered record layer, and advanced one step to "utilization."

Since basic technology was built now, I want to continue research and development after this aiming at utilization of 2010 age..

[BJ_M]

i cant believe this thread came back to life after almost 2 years ...

[flaninacupboard]

piled up many layers like pie cloth

Mmmmm, pie.

I still don't see the problem with larger media, i'm happy to use 8" or even 12" discs, and if it won't fit in my PC i can't easily copy it, either.

[Vanderlow]

Maybe you missed this thread.

"The first Blu-Ray recorders are already on the market, but for consumer electronics makers it will be 2006 or 2007 before we see the first pre-recorded blue laser DVD disks," Buma said.

http://www.forbes.com/technology/newswire/2004/03/30/rtr1316620.html

[RabidDog]

DISKs ? round shiny spinning things? old hat ! compactflash and XD cards, precious

[Jo]

i cant believe this thread came back to life after almost 2 years

nor can i believe they will have a 470GB disk out. i want to use this for drag and drop with data and music files.

[luvvbuzz]

i wonder how good they will be, i mean take a 4.7 gig dvd at the moment, you have to be so careful you dont scratch them cos one scratch which is just slightly too deep (it dont take much) and the disc is rendered unuseable. so if a disc has 470 gig imagine how fragile the surface of it would be?
also i believe they have the means and technology to be selling them 470gig discs right now, but they want to wrangle as much money out of us as possible by selling the 4.7gig discs until it reaches total sales saturation and then they have to bring the new technology out to boost flagging profits.

[MOVIEGEEK]

DISKs ? round shiny spinning things? old hat ! compactflash and XD cards, precious

I agree,I hope CF cards will be the media of the future:no lasers,no moving parts,no -R/+R and no scratches to worry about.CF cards can be encrypted and erased thousands of times. 8)

[DTSL06]

shiney disks, CF cards na....it will be storage crystals....

[MikieV]

shiney disks, CF cards na....it will be storage crystals....

:P

My vote is on the cheap, write-once, "ink"-jet printed, plastic memory cards - like what this company, and others are working on.

Link: http://www.plasticlogic.com/index.php

But, I must admit, holographic storage is so much "sexier".

Mike

[flaninacupboard]

Holographic storage? ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooold news!

http://www.opticaldisc-systems.com/2003sep-oct/Evolution44.htm

I remember finidng some pictures of this system somewhere, if anyone stumbles across them please post the url!!

[BJ_M]

might be pictures here http://www.labguysworld.com/index.html

if not -- its still one really great site for video history ..

[MikieV]

Holographic storage? ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooold news!!

So am I!

I bought one of Pioneers first Laser Disc players, in 1980. Then a Sylvania (Phillips) and then a Sony (years ago!). I still have about 100 discs, but wish I still had that original gas-laser player - with the output for an external D/A-converter for the up-coming Digital Audio discs - As if Sony and Phillips would let existing Pioneer LD-players also play CDs, when they were trying to introduce CD-only players! :P

But, by "holographic", I meant the 3-dimensional, no moving parts type. Two lasers intersecting in the media - one laser modulated with data - storing the information as optical interference patterns in the crystal (or whatever the cube-shaped media was).

Link: http://www.inphase-technologies.com/technology/

Mike