Copy a Backup?

[chadjames692]

I have finally mastered how to make perfect back-up copies of my DVDs, but once again i have stumbled across another problem!! I cannot copy a backup. I have copied many of my DVDs using DVD Decrypter and DVD Shrink and they have been very successful, but when i try ripping my backup copy with DVD Decrypter i get a I/O Error? is there any other way round this?

[Tommyknocker]

Why are you copying a back up?

[macleod]

https://www.videohelp.com/search

[freestyler]

This question is asked at least twice a week, try a search next time Captain Hook

[jimmalenko]

Sounds like a classic case of the newbie who bought DVD X Copy blindly and can't copy any of the DVDs he created with it.

Do a search, man.

Fill in your computer details.

Be a bit more elaborate than "now it won't work".

What error message does it give you ?

[FulciLives]

I have finally mastered how to make perfect back-up copies of my DVDs, but once again i have stumbled across another problem!! I cannot copy a backup. I have copied many of my DVDs using DVD Decrypter and DVD Shrink and they have been very successful, but when i try ripping my backup copy with DVD Decrypter i get a I/O Error? is there any other way round this?

Try downloading DVDInfoPro and do a READ ERROR test on your DVD

Could be you have READ ERRORS on your DVD copy that are causing problem when you try to rip it.

READ ERRORS are most often caused by using less-than-perfect DVD media (i.e., media being the name for a DVD recordable disc).

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

[jimmalenko]

Copy with Windows Explorer. No need to decrypt a backup because it is already unencrypted.

[FulciLives]

Copy with Windows Explorer. No need to decrypt a backup because it is already unencrypted.

People say this all the time but I prefer to use DVD Decrypter as my burning app and since DVD Decrypter can only burn from an ISO IMAGE file it just seems to make sense to RIP in ISO MODE then WRITE in ISO MODE.

Otherwise if you just copy the DVD files over to the HDD you would have to use ImgTools classic to make an ISO IMAGE file before you could burn with DVD Decrypter.

I burn with DVD Decrypter because it seems to me (from experience and reading what other's have said) that it is the BEST way to burn a DVD ... at least much more fool proof than using the bug ridden NERO program.

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

[jimmalenko]

...And I say this all the time because it works for me. I use Nero XPress to load the files and hey presto! a backup has been copied.

Each to their own.

[FulciLives]

...And I say this all the time because it works for me. I use Nero XPress to load the files and hey presto! a backup has been copied.

Each to their own.

All kidding aside ... and I'm not trying to make a fight here ... but isn't it irresponsible to spread the use of a program (especially since many people come to this site looking for help) that is known to have "issues" with DVD burning?

I just don't get that?

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

[DeleriumMDK]

what issues does Nero have exactly? The only thing I've come across is firmware related I believe. Whenever I try to burn a DVD+RW disc in Nero with 1.06 firmware on my NEC ND-1300A it crashes right before it hits 100%. I've tested this on 2 diff drives, different Nero revisions (one was 5.5.10.56, one was a recent version 6) and got the same results. Anything else thats common?

[jimmalenko]

My experience with Nero has been nothing short of sensational. The only errors I've had have been either my own stupidity or bad media. I've updated from time to time and all updates have worked seamlessly on my computers over the years.

Just lucky I guess.

I reckon its irresponsible to spread the word that it has issues when it does not for a number of different setups. I wonder how many issues are user-related ?

[FulciLives]

My experience with Nero has been nothing short of sensational. The only errors I've had have been either my own stupidity or bad media. I've updated from time to time and all updates have worked seamlessly on my computers over the years.

Just lucky I guess.

I reckon its irresponsible to spread the word that it has issues when it does not for a number of different setups. I wonder how many issues are user-related ?

Well no other burning app has more complaints that NERO

Yes there are those that seem to get it to work A-OK but there also are just as many you can't get it to work properly (i.e., makes a DVD that appears to not be 100% compliant and has "issues" playing back on certain DVD players).

So is it fair to say that it works well?

Or is it more fair to say it has "issues"?

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

[jimmalenko]

Well no other burning app has more complaints that NERO

No other burning app is as widely distributed or as frequently used as Nero. Weight of numbers in terms of users suggests that there will always be more complaints.

Yes there are those that seem to get it to work A-OK but there also are just as many you can't get it to work properly (i.e., makes a DVD that appears to not be 100% compliant and has "issues" playing back on certain DVD players).

I wonder how many issues are error 99 (unspecified user error) ?

So is it fair to say that it works well?
Or is it more fair to say it has "issues"?

It is fair to say it works well for some and has issues for others.

Getting back to the point of the thread, let me re-emphasize my first post:

Copy with Windows Explorer. No need to decrypt a backup because it is already unencrypted.

Here is where it gets interesting. NOWHERE IN THIS POST did I mention that you MUST use NERO. You can use any software you like that turns authoring into burning stage. I mention later that:

...And I say this all the time because it works for me. I use Nero XPress to load the files and hey presto! a backup has been copied.

I believe this states my own personal preferences. I am not suggesting that this user should try Nero. I certainly don't expect this user to go out and buy Nero because of what I have said. I was simply iterating that I have had success in the past using this method. And finally:

Each to their own.

I believe this means that I respect your decisions even though I don't agree with them, and I would like that same respect paid back...please !.

[Phil Thomas]

errrrrr. right ! ... OK .... back to the original post :

You could try riping with your DVD Burner, instead of your DVD-ROM, as it may be more tolerant .
My first guess though would be ... it's your media .... if you aren't already, switch to something like Ritek G04's and see if this makes a difference.

95% of errors are down to bad/cheap media.

Regarding the Nero/DVD Decrypter issue, I have used Nero for a few years now, without problems, but I would say that Nero is a complex program and as such, has many "trapdoors" for newbies to fall down. Also there have been a few issues that Ahead themselves acknolwedged, regarding DVD compliancy. These were sorted long ago, but the bad taste lingers !!!. Having said that, there is some logic, when troubleshooting, to use a simple burning solution, like DVD Decrypter ISO/Write, as this leaves "no room" for user error.

[jjbodean1970]

i would skip dvd decrypter since the backup is already decrypted and head straight for dvdshrink, just my methodology, works for me.

ps i burn with nero 6 with no problems to date. i also use memorex +R media that often gets a bad rap (i do use the ricohs, not the cmcs), also with no issues to date.