DVD2DVDR "the program"

[Marco33]

What results have you guys seen letting DVD2DVDR run CCE with it's own settings.

By the way, who wrote this thing? It's great.

[cew7779]

I Have had to change a few of the settings. some of the movies, after the encoding process worked, but had a weird look to them.

[Marco33]

The VBR X pass settings seem to be very good, altho the video setting can be off.

[joepic]

What results have you guys seen letting DVD2DVDR run CCE with it's own settings.

By the way, who wrote this thing? It's great.

You must use BitRate Viewer to get the correct settings in DVD2DVD-R.

In BitRate Viewer you need to reference the following fields:

Pic structure: Frame
Field topfirst: Yes
Quantscale: Nonlinear
Scan type: alternate

In DVD2DVD-R you need to look at the Encoder Options which are also found in the MPEG-2 video settings in CCE

Upper field first
Progressive frames
Linear quantizer scale
Zigzag scanning order

So what do I check in DVD2DVD-R to get the correct results from BitRate Viewer?

If Field topfirst: Yes -- check Upper field first
If Pic structure: Frame -- check Progressive frames
If Quantscale: Nonlinear - according to the Getting the Best out of CCE ALWAYS check Linear quantizer scale
If Scan type: alternate -- do NOT check Zigzag scanning order

[Marco33]

If Field topfirst: Yes -- check Upper field first
If Pic structure: Frame -- check Progressive frames
If Quantscale: Nonlinear - according to the Getting the Best out of CCE ALWAYS check Linear quantizer scale
If Scan type: alternate -- do NOT check Zigzag scanning order

I just finished just letting DVD2DVDr do it's thing all the way through INC encoding with CCE. Came out great.

Altho if I set top field & progressive to the right settins it comes out wrong. So, I just don't check them at all. 2 movies backed up fine. Been patroling the Doom9 forums and it would seem that they noticed that also. I got it from there.

[dreadogg]

so are you saying you just let dvd2dvdr do all the selecting of the settings?

[Marco33]

The only thing I do is uncheck uperfield first & progressive frames.

[dreadogg]

IS there a difference between 3:2 and 2:3 pulldown? Do you all force film and do 2:3 pull down for NTSC film?

[Marco33]

Good question. I don't see a setting for that. This program seems to do just about everything by itself. Ripp, fix sound (Sync), encode if needed. I put in a disk uncheck those two setting I mentioned before and hit GO. 8 hours latter I have a video (M2V) & sound file (AC3) all encode and ready to be autho'ed.

[sp44]

What about the actual bitrate? Do you change any of those settings in DVD2DVDR from looking at the viewer?

[NYPlayer]

dreadogg Posted: Jan 22 19:06

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IS there a difference between 3:2 and 2:3 pulldown? Do you all force film and do 2:3 pull down for NTSC film?

This is just a typo in the program

For NTSC films you should always use Force Film and pulldown for better quality.

Drop Frame is used if you plan on using subtitles

I have found the bitrates to be accurate.

You should not use ifoedit authoring if you are doing NTSC films.

[sp44]

dreadogg Posted: Jan 22 19:06
You should not use ifoedit authoring if you are doing NTSC films.

Doesn't this program automatically open ifoedit to author?

[NYPlayer]

Unfortunately Ifoedit does not do a good job when authoring NTSC films.

see this thread

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=85aeeaef84d22f4d6a323bef22737319&threadid=3915...t+pulldown+bug

[Marco33]

What about the actual bitrate? Do you change any of those settings in DVD2DVDR from looking at the viewer?

Nope, it does a better job that I do. I've tried both.

[joepic]

What about the actual bitrate? Do you change any of those settings in DVD2DVDR from looking at the viewer?

DVD2DVD-R does an EXCELLENT job of setting the bitrates, min, avg and max. I do NOT change these except when I have 2 or more PGC's on a DVD and need to extract each one and resize down even more than the recommend values.

Examples of multiple PGC's: a TV series DVD with multiple shows on same DVD, Band of Brothers has 2 PGC's per DVD. When I did Band of Brothers I set the MB REGURED down to 2100 (about half the 4.37GB) to put both PGC's on plus left room for a menu and theme music.

One more thing about the software BitRate Viewer, always analyze the movie VTS files. Do not use the movie menu VTS or other files on the DVD to determine the correct settings for DVD2DVD-R.

[dreadogg]

Unfortunately Ifoedit does not do a good job when authoring NTSC films.

see this thread

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=85aeeaef84d22f4d6a323bef22737319&threadid=3915...t+pulldown+bug

hay now I did not say that! LOL

[GreyDeath]

Is there an English Language version of this program?

I tried to install it, but it fails.

[Marco33]

Use this to translate. Maybe you are pressing the wrong button.

http://www.freetranslation.com/

[dreadogg]

ok well I finished doing my first encode using this program and have it wrote to a DVD-RW, I did not author at all, I thought that DVD2DVDr already does that? it works fine! whats the difference?

[[Deadman]]

Ok, I understand that ifoedit isn't the way to go for the final authoring of the m2v and ac3 files, but it appears that 1.3.5 only works with ifoedit and SonicScenarist. Can I use the Scenarist settings to author with DvDMaestro? And if not, what version of Scenarist do I need to find?

[joepic]

]Ok, I understand that ifoedit isn't the way to go for the final authoring of the m2v and ac3 files, but it appears that 1.3.5 only works with ifoedit and SonicScenarist. Can I use the Scenarist settings to author with DvDMaestro? And if not, what version of Scenarist do I need to find?

Maestro does not use the Sceanarist settings. You can leave this on or on the SETTING page check NO AUTHORING (forgot the exact words, not at a machine that has program on).

For Maestro, just IMPORT MEDIA ASSESTS .M2V and .MP2 files. Follow one of these links for details on Maestro:

Spruce DVDMaestro
http://digital-forums.com/dvd2dvdr/intro.htm
http://www.fukrulez.com/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=11
http://www.doom9.org/index.html?/mpg/maestro.htm
http://www.doom9.org/mpg/maestro.htm
http://www.doom9.org/mpg/maestro2.htm

[sp44]

What about the actual bitrate? Do you change any of those settings in DVD2DVDR from looking at the viewer?

DVD2DVD-R does an EXCELLENT job of setting the bitrates, min, avg and max. I do NOT change these except when I have 2 or more PGC's on a DVD and need to extract each one and resize down even more than the recommend values.

Examples of multiple PGC's: a TV series DVD with multiple shows on same DVD, Band of Brothers has 2 PGC's per DVD. When I did Band of Brothers I set the MB REGURED down to 2100 (about half the 4.37GB) to put both PGC's on plus left room for a menu and theme music.

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How can you use DVD2DVD-R with multiple PGC's? You can only click on one at a time.

[ambo72]

To everybody that's using the DVD2DVDR method, I suggest you check how old your stand alone DVD player is. The problem may not be you or your PC

Here's my little story ......I followed all the steps in this guide step-by-step and was not able to burn a single DVD-R that didn't either "freeze or skip". So what I did is I bought myself a new PC [INTEL 2.0 512 MB (DDR2700) 400 FSB with a firewire 120 GB HD]. Tried the steps again with twice the speed of my old PC but guess what ....still the same problem.

So the next thing I did is I went to Bestbuy and brought the discs I burned and played my DVD-R on each of the players available until I found a player that played my DVD-R (Panasonic RV-32) $120

Lesson I learned, I GOT A FREAKING OLD PIONEER DV-343
What I should have done is upgrade my DVD player instead of spending a total of $700

[joepic]

How can you use DVD2DVD-R with multiple PGC's? You can only click on one at a time.

That is correct. It took me two passes to get both PGC's for Band of Brothers.

Each PGC was between 55 -115 minutes for play time. I set the MB MINIMUM between 2000 -2200 to chop the both down to fit on one DVD-R.

[joepic]

so are you saying you just let dvd2dvdr do all the selecting of the settings?

If you are talking about the min, avg and max bitrates then YES.

The only time I have changed these values when rippin' multiple PGC's (note: one at a time, takes two passes of DVD2DVD-R) for Band of Brothers.

[[Deadman]]

K, I found the Maestro guide and got the .m2v and .ac3 file imported, but there is no chapters file. I tried using ChapterXtractor to create the file for Meastro using the original .VOBs but Maestro doesn't like it. Any ideas or pointers?

Thanks

[joepic]

]K, I found the Maestro guide and got the .m2v and .ac3 file imported, but there is no chapters file. I tried using ChapterXtractor to create the file for Meastro using the original .VOBs but Maestro doesn't like it. Any ideas or pointer?

Try this:

1. In ChapterXtractor, select PRESETS DVDMAESTRO, change the format to
%hh:%mm:%ss:cc\n and SAVE the format.

2. In Maestro, right click on the Chapter line, do not import but select PROPERTIES. In the column SNAP CHAPTER TO GOP select NEAREST GOP.

I was having problems also and this is the only two things I changed to get everything working with Chapters.

[musher70]

This program not worth the effort, just trying to get it
to install with xp, will fry ur brain, read thru 16 pages,
and still no go, maybe a guide in english on how to
install will come soon, give minimum requirements
such as which service packs and codecs and such...

[sp44]

so are you saying you just let dvd2dvdr do all the selecting of the settings?

If you are talking about the min, avg and max bitrates then YES.

The only time I have changed these values when rippin' multiple PGC's (note: one at a time, takes two passes of DVD2DVD-R) for Band of Brothers.

I don't understand. When you do one PGC at a time it doesn't need encoding so it won't let you change the bitrate. Cause it doesn't have to.

[NYPlayer]

sp44

You can change the bitrate even if it needs no encoding. On the settings tab you can check to always encode.