Reauthoring a PAL DVD

[Richkut]

A friend of mine received a PAL DVD of a wedding from a relative overseas. While this disk plays fine on my PC, even my Cyberhome CH-300s (3 of them--all PAL-playback compatible on NTSC monitors) will not play this DVD due to some static glitch/anomaly at the beginning of the first clip. I tried to copy the DVD ina variety of ways, but this glitch still persists! Last night I used MPEG-VCR to edit out the first few seconds of the first clip and the program rewrote the file from a VOB to an MPEG. I also ran the other two VOBs through MPEG-VCR so that I had 3 discrete MPEG-2 files. I imported those in to ULEAD DVD MovieFactory Disc Creator 3 and set it for the PAL/SECAM standard (to the highest quality), hoping that this would prevent total rerendering of the files. Well, it began the long rerendering process!! Since I do not know the exact compression parameters of the original DVD video (the audio IS MPEG-2 per PowerDVD, but the video fluctuates), is there any trick up anyone's sleeve to cause the files not to rerender using this method? Am I going about this wrong, or is there no way to do what I want without rerendering? I know that if I record a DVD+RW and use the VR method of replacing just the proprietary menus from my Philips 985 standalone recorder with those I choose in MovieFactory, ONLY THE MENUS RERENDER AND NOT THE VIDEO/AUDIO!! I guess this does not work the same way for the current PAL DVDI am trying to create. Yes, I did check do not render of MPEG-2 compliant and I wanted to leave it in PAL HOPING that this, too, would prevent the renrender!! In other workds, PLEASE HELP!!

[hech54]

Have you tried ripping the DVD with DVDDecrypter? I would rip in IFO mode - file splitting NONE - and demux the audio from the video.

Load that into TDA (30 day trial)....make a simple menu....maybe place in some chapter markers if you like.
I use Ulead MF2 occasionally but TDA is now my first choice.

[Richkut]

Say, I just had an idea--what if after I run the edited MPEGS through MPEG-VCR I just rename the new MPEG-2s back to their original VOB names, then burn all of the files (changed and unchanged) under the VIDEO_TS folder back to a DVD--would this work? Has anyone ever tried this method?? Oh, by the way, hech54, I DID run the files through DVDDecrypter, despite the fact that they were not encrypted!! Sorry that I did not mention this, but thanks for the clarification/sugestions!!

[hech54]

Oh, by the way, hech54, I DID run the files through DVDDecrypter, despite the fact that they were not encrypted!! Sorry that I did not mention this, but thanks for the clarification/sugestions!!

If you select "File Splitting NONE" you will have only 1 vob to deal with....that was my point....MUCH easier for MPEG-VCR to deal with...

This is easier....
DO NOT demux with DVDDecrypter. Only demux with MPEG-VCR after you do your editing....sorry...had to get my plans of attack straight in my head...

[Richkut]

Say, I just had an idea--what if after I run the edited MPEGS through MPEG-VCR I just rename the new MPEG-2s back to their original VOB names, then burn all of the files (changed and unchanged) under the VIDEO_TS folder back to a DVD--would this work? Has anyone ever tried this method?? Oh, by the way, hech54, I DID run the files through DVDDecrypter, despite the fact that they were not encrypted!! Sorry that I did not mention this, but thanks for the clarification/sugestions!!

OK, when I edited the VOBs with MPEG-VCR and wrote out the edited MPEG-2 files, I then renamed these files back to the .VOB extension. When I attempted to burn the files (in a VIDEO_TS folder), Nero echoed back that the files were NOT DVD compliant (the size was wrong--I guess that VOBs must be a certain file size to be considered DVD compliant). Anyway, I just took the MPEG-2 files (as a result of MPEG-VCR editing) and imported them to ULEAD DVD MovieFactory 3.0 Disc Creator, which of course needed to re-render these files (but 6 hours later I ended up with an .ISO that burned fine and the DVD plays back in my Cyberhome CH-300 players!). The bottom line--is there a program that will pad MPEG-2 files (from VOBs edited with MPEG-VCR or similar programs) so that if one renames them back with the VOB extension that they will be the correct size to be considered DVD compliant? If so, this would save the 6 hours of re-rendering time, as DVD MovieFactory would NOT need to re-render!!

[guns1inger]

Padding them out doesn't do anything but fil your file with crap. Chances are it won't play in a player.

Go back to the beginning. Rip it with DVD Decrypter back to one big VOB. Edit this with mpegvcr, and save as mpeg2. Load this into an authoring app that won't rerender compliant files (tmpgenc DVD author, DVD Lab / Pro) to reauthor back to a disk.

[Richkut]

I already own ULEAD DVD MovieFactory 3.0 Disc Creator, which has a tick mark to prevent rendering MPEG-2 compliant files--so why did it re-render in my case? Did I select the wrong compression (the imported source files were 1:59:10, so I chose the 2 hour mode. This defaults to 7000kb/s VBR. Should I have overridden and chosen CBR instead?)? Please continue to advise, and thanks in advance! Oh, and do I use file or ifo mode??!!

[Abond]

I already own ULEAD DVD MovieFactory 3.0 Disc Creator, which has a tick mark to prevent rendering MPEG-2 compliant files--so why did it re-render in my case? Did I select the wrong compression (the imported source files were 1:59:10, so I chose the 2 hour mode. This defaults to 7000kb/s VBR. Should I have overridden and chosen CBR instead?)? Please continue to advise, and thanks in advance! Oh, and do I use file or ifo mode??!!

Maybe Ulead thinks they are not compliant.