Anyone use USB 2.0 external drive with DVD writer?

[wsam7]

i come across with a problem when i use USB 2.0 external drive
http://compreviews.about.com/cs/casesandmods/gr/aaprbelUSB2enc.htm
with my sony dru 510a firewire 1.0d using nero 6.0.

when i use close disc at the end, it cant not write anything, but when i use mutisession it can write. BUT..... after writing all data, it cant lead-out to close the disc.... it will than reset my dvd and say fail....

although the dvd is still work fine and seems to have no problem(when i put it in any dvd-rom. but it cant close disc make me feel unfinish burning...

below is the log after the error occure. this kind of error i try to search online, but no one even come across how to solve it. let u guy have a look and help me.... i am so poor.....

here is the log...

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16:03:45 #21 Text 0 File WriterStatus.cpp, Line 113
<SONY DVD RW DRU-510A > start writing Lead-Out at LBA 2099536 (200950h), lenght 0 blocks

16:03:45 #22 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 228
all writers idle, stopping conversion

16:03:48 #23 Phase 133 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1843
Writing short lead-out

16:05:11 #24 SCSI -1135 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1203
SCSI Exec, HA 3, TA 5, LUN 0
Status: 0x04 (0x01, SCSI_ERR)
HA-Status 0x00 (0x00, OK)
TA-Status 0x02 (0x01, SCSI_TASTATUS_CHKCOND)
Sense Key: 0x03 (KEY_MEDIUM_ERROR)
Sense Code: 0x0C
Sense Qual: 0x08
CDB Data: 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00
Sense Data: 0xF1 0x00 0x03 0xFF 0xFD 0x00 0x00 0x12
0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x0C 0x08

16:05:11 #25 Text 0 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1703
Set remaining time: 0:00,000 (0ms) -> OK

16:05:11 #26 CDR -1135 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1626
Write error

16:05:11 #27 TRANSFER -24 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1626
Could not perform end of Disc-at-once

16:05:11 #28 Text 0 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1703
Set remaining time: 0:00,000 (0ms) -> OK

16:05:11 #29 Text 0 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1703
Set remaining time: 0:00,000 (0ms) -> OK

16:05:11 #30 Phase 38 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1843
Burn process failed at 2x (2,760 KB/s)

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how come it say TA-Status 0x02 (0x01, SCSI_TASTATUS_CHKCOND)
Sense Key: 0x03 (KEY_MEDIUM_ERROR)

does it means it has a problem with the scsi driver??
how to fix it?? this dvd write work fine inside my machine IDE, but when i take it out to the usb 2.0 external drive, it start become strange.....

anyone seen this before??

thank for spending so long time to see my problems

[sitlet]

i had a usb 2.0 enclosure with my burner and could not get it to work right. it would burn the dvds, but the discs would still be blank with nothing actually written. i got a firewire enclosure and it works fine now. i would try the burner as an internal drive in a friends computer or something. if that works, then your problem is the enclosure

[wsam7]

thx for answering, but shame that the writer did work as an internal drive....

so you rekon my problem may be the speed issue?
am.... let me think... so firewire will work?

becas i got another 2 external drive order coming, i am think should i change it to firewire....

let me do more test before i change the order..

thans alot.

so is there anyone out there have this problem as well?
please come and help

[ccbadd]

I would definitely recommend firewire over USB2. Every drive that I have put in my external enclosure (combo firewire/usb2) has worked perfectly with firewire and hit or miss with USB2. I have used a Pioneer 105, Nec 1300a, BTC 1004IM, and a Cyberdrive DX082D and the drive does not seem to make a difference, only which connection I use, USB or Firewire.

[makntraks]

I would definitely recommend firewire over USB2. Every drive that I have put in my external enclosure (combo firewire/usb2) has worked perfectly with firewire and hit or miss with USB2. I have used a Pioneer 105, Nec 1300a, BTC 1004IM, and a Cyberdrive DX082D and the drive does not seem to make a difference, only which connection I use, USB or Firewire.

Same here... Have a Sony burner and using Firewire hasn't let me down yet.... as for USB 2.0 - IMO it's only good for certain things (cam, scanner, printer..) so that if it screws up, it doesn't cost anything as opposed to burning, in which a bad burn will ultimately set you back your time and the cost of a DVD disc...

My $0.02
Makntraks

[fuzzywuzzy]

Count me as another Firewire advocate. I have a TDK 440N external DVD burner which has both USB2.0 and Firewire connections. Using the Firewire connection I have yet to produce a coaster or have a problem. It just works.

[snafu099]

Using usb-2 (add on card with nec chip) for both 120g hdd and nec 1300a burner.
Burn with Nero or thru Ulead s/w

Are you sure s/w is set to finalize ?

Not to start debate of which has better transfer rate, I prefer usb simply because it has a larger installed base (almost all, if not all new pc)

[Milt]

I also have a DRU510a in an ADS external dual link (firewire, or USB2.0),
and it works great connected via firewire. I think you will find while the burst rate in USB 2.0 may be faster, firewire seems to be more stable with video applications. I would agree with the previous writer who indicated USB2.0 works best with printing, scanning, etc.

The only issue I have with my dual link is, that in device manager of XP, it is recognized under CD devices only as an ADS firewire CD device, or something like that. It is recognized as a 510a in applications such as Nero, PPRO, etc. Does not seem to cause any problems, just would rather see it listed appropriately. Interestingly, in another Win98SE machine I have, it is recognized as a 510a in device manager.

[fuzzywuzzy]

The only issue I have with my dual link is, that in device manager of XP, it is recognized under CD devices only as an ADS firewire CD device, or something like that. It is recognized as a 510a in applications such as Nero, PPRO, etc. Does not seem to cause any problems, just would rather see it listed appropriately. Interestingly, in another Win98SE machine I have, it is recognized as a 510a in device manager.

Must be something with the Sony. My TDK external drive is listed in the XP device manager under the DVD/CD-ROM drives as TDK DVDRW0404N IEEE 1394 SBP2 Device. That is the manufacturer and model name as is written in its firmware. It shows up in Windows Explorer as a DVD-RW drive, and in Nero and other burning applications as TDK DVDRW0404N.

In my experience, though on paper USB2.0 has a slight edge over current Firewire in total bandwidth (480Mbps vs 400Mbps), in real world usage, Firewire slightly outperforms USB2.0. Firewire seems more stable for extended high-speed usage such as reading/writing to DVDs, where USB2.0 is more suited to burst transport. I seem to have much less problems using Firewire than USB2.0, my computer has sockets for both on the back and front panels. Firewire is being updated to 800Mbps and there is even faster implimentations on the drawing board.

[SquirrelDip]

I'm using an HP200 via USB2 - never had a problem. Have also updated the firmware to the RICOH and still no problems.

Keep in mind that this is only a 2.4x recorder...

[wsam7]

icic, so your all suggest that using firwire should solve the problem? so the problem come with the speed.....

i will thk abt it, but at the mean time i cant find any enclosure use firewire sells in uk.... i try dabs and simply..... do u know anywhere i can try online?

i see that belkin do sell a enclosure usb 2.0 with firewire as well, but i only see it available in US.... so sad....

i want a firewire external enclosure.....

so sad, no way to solve...

[ofbarea]

My HP DVD200i (latest RPC1 Ricoh firmware) is installed in a USB2/Firewire case. In the firmware port I have connected and external hard disk and a DV cam. To the USB2 ports I have plugged my Scanner, Printer, keyboard, mouse and DVD burner.

I hove no problems burning to my 200i through fire wire or USB2.

You may want to install the latest chipset divers and the latest MS service pack for your OS.

[ofbarea]

My PC does not behave well with USB2 anymore . My burner just trashed a couple of DVDs. After switching to firewire, no more problems!

There were some changes in my setup: newer intel network drivers, newer chipset drivers, newer video drivers and newer Audigy drivers and, of course, a few new M$ security patches.

[DVDDave]

i use an external sony dru510 via usb 2.0--hooked up to my laptop--no problems!!

[ViRaL1]

I have a Sony DRE-500a in an ME-320U2F case running USB 2.0 with no problems. Haven't tried firewire in a while but when I first hooked it up EZ CD Creator 5 wouldn't recognize the burner even though windows would. I just stick with USB 2.0 because all my PCs have it, but not firewire. Only problems I've ever had have been cheap media (Princo 1x -R).

[draganong]

I have a few HDDs, CDRWs and DVDRWs hooked up via external USB2 enclosures on 3 computers with win2k and XPee. All work flawlessly.

Draganong

[Stas]

I had some simmilar error message with my Plextor 708A with Plextor media. The answer from Plextor was that there are some bugs in Nero 6.

Yes, I uninstall Nero with Nero Uninstall Tool (Downloadable from Nero WEB) and tried with Nero 5.5 - the problem disappeared. I think the newest Nero can also resolve this problem.

Maybe the reason is not in the USB 2.0 - try with another NERO release!

[odd1out]

I've supplied a Pioneer DVR-106 & external 5.25" USB2 housing to a guy running a laptop. Worked great. Be interested to hear of negative experiences people may have had with Pioneer DVR-105 & up. Seem to be a fair share of problems with Sony, LG, NEC, LITE-ON (definitely!), it could simply come down to who makes the best drive.

[twoteg]

Have Panasonic sw9571 and TDK440n. Both on USB. Have yet to produce a coaster. Have burned more than 200 DVD's

[ccbadd]

I think that the majority of USB problems are actually related to the PC chipset and drivers. This is why some have no problems and others can't get it to work. On the Firewire side, it is an IEEE standard that is clearly defined. USB is an Intel Spec that leaves some room for incompatable implementations. I am also not a fan of the marketing blunders of USB 2.0 Full Speed / High Speed thing, very mis-leading.

In the end, if it works for you, USB can save you a little money on the cost of the enclosure. If you do have problems, go Firewire as it appears to be a much more mature bus.

[DTSL06]

I had prob and success with both firewire and USB2 cases.

1. USB2 works with my plex 708 but slow burns 4-5x max 10-12min, firewire didnt (writes sometimes but couldnt rip without error using DVD Decryter and slow burn times 4x max 15-16min).
2. USB2 didnt work with my Pioneer A05 (will not finalize session) and firewire does(burns at 4x 14min).
3. USB2 worked on LG 4040, never tried firwire.

The Plex and Pioneer was tested using the same Bytec duel interface external case.