Need help with crappy sound in musicvideos

[tompa40]

Hi, have a big problem with different musicvideos and the crappy sound in
some of them, specially the one from the 60s like shindig, hullabaloo, and others. I have tried other swedish forum on this subject but no luck, mabye this is the right forum, Now to my question. I'm trying to change bad waves with good ones, for exampel the Vogues - You're The One, the sound is to loud and you can't make it lower because of the loss of sound,
so i will change the sound with a new digital one. i'm using tmpgenc to rip out the wave from the Vogues musicvideo and musicmatch to convert a good Vogues mp3 to wave. After that i'm using Goldwave 4.26 and open up my wave-files and compare the wave-files with each other and do some clipping and cutting so the files are about the same size, here is the big problem, even if the sound is starting at the same time i'm either loosing speed or the sound is going to fast in the middle of the sound, so when the sound is reaching the end i have about 1 or 2 second of wrong speed,so when i'm looking at the video the sound and the lips are unsynct.
in Goldwave you can reduce or increase speed but it wont do you any good, the problem is still there, belive me i have tried this for a long time now. Is there a program out there that can help me or can somebody ho tried this and with success managed to do it help me with this very annoying problem.

Tompa

[Perro Grande]

Yep -- you've got a decent challenge there. I've had a bit of experience with this -- and come up with some respectable results.

Many times, live groups will take some liberties with the tempo (intentionally or otherwise). The studio version is likely to be much more metronome-like.

Anyway...

You may have better luck twiddling with the video rather than the audio. Depending on the program material, you might be able to sneak a few frames in our out to help the sync problem.

For example, if there is a cutaway scene where you only hear the music, but don't see drumsticks, lips, etc, you could drop frames at the end, or some innocuous place in the middle to help get you back in sync for a while.

On the other hand, some software allows you to stretch or shrink sections of the sound files, as opposed to the entire thing. I think perhaps cool edit or cool edit pro can do this. Again, though, there is a good chance that the ear will hear this kind of fiddling before the eye will see clever frame deletes. Generally, I've had better luck going this route than solely the audio route...

Of course, a brave soul can do both!

Hope this helps.

[IonS]

Maybe they arent the same song IE one might be a studio cut of the song and the other might be a video cut of the song i run into this problem alot while syncing music videos with mp3 sound instead of tv sound cause sometimes they dont want a 5min studio cut for a video so they add or take out some guitar parts and a extra chorus but i could be wrong.