Mpeg2 too big for dvd!

[Iggybear]

Hello there. I have a film that's in mpeg2 format, 480x480, 29.97fps and about 100 minutes long and the audio is mpeg1 layer 2, 224kbps, 44100Hz in stereo. I tried burning a dvd with toast 6 but there is not enough room on the disk (about 400Mb too much). Can anyone tell me how I can shrink it down a bit. I thought maybe make a video_ts folder and dvd2one it but I don't know how to make such a folder. Any help would be much appreciated.

[WiseWeasel]

That's SVCD format. It should normally fit on CD-R, not DVD-R. How big (in MB) are those files? There are tools to work with them, but first I think some confusion needs to be cleared up. DVD2One will be useless to you, and SVCDs don't have VIDEO_TS folders. What do you have now? Is it one file, or separate audio and video tracks? What is(are) the filename extension(s) (filename.XXX) of the movie you have?

[galactica]

i think its more a question of how to get that file to dvd.
you can do what you did above, but rahter than clicking BURN go to file and save as disk image. this will create a VIDEO_TS folder withing a .toast image. you can mount the image, run that VIDEO_TS folder through dvd2one if you want.

but the question is.... how large is this mpeg file in the first place.
if all you want is for it to be a dvd, you can use sizzle to complile a video_ts folder that may actually be the correct size!

toast does a lot of reencoding, and if you already have a .mpeg all you need to do is change the audio and build the image.

check my website for svcd to dvd tutorial, but stop after you have the .m2v and .mp2 at 48Khz and instead of continuing you can use sizzle to compile the image.

[WiseWeasel]

Galactica: Would you actually recommend reencoding the 480x480 video to DVD resolution? That sounds ludicrous to me . . . it's going to look like arse.
Iggybear: Are you trying to convert SVCD to DVD? Do you realize that DVD is higher resolution than SVCD (720x480 pixels vs. 480x480), and it's going to have to double the pixel size (or resample upscaled pixels) to make it fit DVD resolution? This is not going to look good, at least not any better than the original SVCD, and quite likely much worse. Why not make an SVCD with those video and audio streams, since that's what they're supposed to be at that video resolution and audio sampling rate.

[galactica]

Galactica: Would you actually recommend reencoding the 480x480 video to DVD resolution? That sounds ludicrous to me . . . it's going to look like arse.

NOT AT ALL!
hence why i said that the toast method would be the last thing i would do because it would be reencoding it!

if you jsut pop this through sizzle and build an image out of the .mpeg. sure at 352x480 there will be some shrinking, but thats about all you can do.

i totally agree going to 720x480 would cause lots of problems.
however, typically these 480x480 mpeg's have a false black bar burned into them *as svcd's and the resolution change is not so noticable even if you do go to 720x480 at least for the svcd to dvd ive done!

[WiseWeasel]

If you wanted to do that, DIVA would probably be the best way, with very good resampling, scaling and cropping. You could export directly to MPEG2 if you have that QT codec installed (I think), else DV might work as an intermediate.

[Iggybear]

It has got the black bars. It's an .avi file that's about 1.5Gb. Save as disk image was exactly what i was looking for! But if I do that and then use DVD2ONE will I lose a lot of quality? I have the .m2v and .aiff files that Toast encoded. Are you saying that if I make the .aiff into .mp2@48kHz can I just Sizzle it and not lose quality? Thanks for all the help people!

[galactica]

your saying toast didnt give you a VIDEO_TS folder in a .toast image you mount?!?!?!

[Iggybear]

Oh my god...One thing you guys have got to understand about me is that I'm a bit stupid. When I said '.avi,' I meant .mpg. Anoter stupid thing is that I cut the .mpg in two and burned the first half, but stopped Toast after it encoded but before it burned to DVDR, thus leaving me with one .m2v and one .aiff in the "Roxio converted items" folder in documents. This is what I hope to do: Get a DVD disk image from toast of the whole .mpg movie, then take the video_ts and dvd2one it....or, after I make the disk image, get hold of the .m2v and .mp2(converted from .aiff) and use sizzle for the rest. Please forgive me for wasting you guys's time. Cheers!

[galactica]

sounds like your at least on the right path...

[Iggybear]

What the hell? I now have the toast disk image but it's 3.9Gb. Hmmm. I'm just gonna burn that, I've spent way too much time fussing over this. Cheers guys!

[galactica]

and earlier when you tried just clicking burn it said it was too large!
how strange. just before you burn mount it and make sure it works, ie plays in apple dvd player.

then you have some security that it worked properly and know your burning of the image will produce a working dvd.

[charmie1701]

Hi Guys,

I hope you can help. I have just read through this post and I think I have the same problem.

I have an .avi file of a movie which I converted to .mpg, which is 1.69Gb. I also have a .m2v and .mp2 files which add up to the same amount. I Would like to burn either a SVCD or DVD from either of these files so I can watch it on my DVD player.

The only thing is when I use Toast 6.0 to create a disk it says there is not enough room. How do I shrink it down and if Toast is not the best programme to use what is....?

Totally confused and amazed I got this far.

Hope you can help.

[charmie1701]

Just to clear up a point I used ffmpegX to convert the .avi file to SVCD.
It then created the .mpg, .m2v and .mp2 files.

I have no idea what to do with them nor how to burn them to disk except using Toast. But seeing as Toast reports them as being too large to fit on a disk and I am unsure as to why the final files are so much larger then the original.

Please help...!!

[galactica]

Its spelled out above, but just incase its difficult to see easily.....

1. use toast, but instead of burning the disk, save the disk to your HD as a disk image. Drop your .mpeg file into the dvd window, and go to FILE/SAVE AS DISK IMAGE then it will start its encoding process and save the image to your HD.

2. use the .m2v and .mp2 files and create a disk image with Sizzle. Set your video channel as the .m2v, audio as. mp2 build the disk image.

now either way you get a disk image.
mount it.

use the VIDEO_TS folder within that image as a sorce for dvd2one
set the dvd2one size to be appropriate for your dvd-r and process.

the new video_ts folder will be the proper size for burning.

This would be for dvd.

for svcd you would want to split the .mpeg file into segments of 795 megs and use VCDTOOLSX to compile a vcd image and then use something like MMB or Firestarter FX to burn each of the images *total number = how many times you split it* onto a 700 meg cdr