DVDShrink 3.0 Questions?

[Thunder In Paradise]

Hey guys. I just started using DVDShrink because I was getting tired of DVD X Copy Xpress only copying over the Dolby 2.0 Surround sound channel on movies that had Dolby 5.1 on them. Anyways, I just copied Artificial Intelligence last night, and it turned out great. Kept all the menus (although I made into still frames, which turned out kinda weird), saved the 5.1 sound mix, and kept the movie compression at it's lowest, 39% was the lowest it would go. I have a question, how come when you lower the compression ratio, the movie file size goes up? Shouldn't the compression ratio and the movie size be inversely proportional? Also, how the heck do you just elminate the menus and junk with DVDShrink? I couldn't find any options just to remove it, only options to change it's format or quality.

P.S. For those who think you can't compress a 3 hour movie down onto a single DVD-R without major quality loss, I just copied Titanic with DVD X Copy Xpress, and there's no quality loss at all!

[FOO]

You tell it to Reauthor and then drag the movie only to
the new Shrink window.

[ddlooping]

A few guides that might be of help:
http://www.dvdshrink.info/guides.php

[Thunder In Paradise]

Thanks guys. I don't suppose that there's anyway to speed up the "backing-up" process? In particular, the encoding phase, since it takes incrediably long to finish, even on 90min. movies, 40-50 min. with my P4 2.53Ghz system.

[ddlooping]

40-50 min. for average size movies is indeed fairly slow, especially on a P4 2.53Ghz.
You are either using "Deep Analysis" (which analyses all the frames, hence the lengthy procedure), or compressing the hell out of the DVDs.

P.S: a 20% compression on an average size movie usually takes about 20 minutes on my Athlon 1700+.

[FOO]

The kids these days ain't got no patience. :P
Only a year ago 8 hours was common.
Buncha weenies

[Thunder In Paradise]

Yeah, OK FOO. :P
But yes, dlooping, I forgot to add that I do use deep analyzing for all my movies. I was way nervous using the "compression" sliders and changing the amount, but I did A.I. last night, with 40%, and it turned out perfect! Should I turn off DA if the movie isn't longer then 2 hours? Does having it off or on effect the movie quality that much? THanks

[ddlooping]

"Should I turn off DA if the movie isn't longer then 2 hours?"

I'd suggest you leave it on for anything that requires more than 10-15% compression.
If you have the time, I'd suggest you leave it on all the time.
(unless the backup doesn't require compression)

"Does having it off or on effect the movie quality that much?"

Some say the difference in quality is highly noticeable.
Others that it's there but not huge.
I have yet to hear someone say he/she didn't see the difference.
But it's all very subjective, as everything related to quality is.

[overloaded_ide]

Hey DDlooping,
WHy don't you point him to Vesterlees thread, I would hate to type all that over again

I did a 3 hr movie and can see no difference between the real disk and the backup. Full disk backup, did not use deep analyze, took maybe 30-45 minutes to rip. I used the defaults it showed when it first read the disk.
I forget the actual time, I should do it over to see, it might have been even less.

My Tv 20" flat screen Sanyo, and picture so clear you think you can reach inside the tv and pick the leaves on the trees! Absolutly no artifacts!
Maybe if you got a 51" tv it would look different, but I can't see it on mine!

At least one of my disks was about 50%, I think it was my first or second one. I thought I would have to trash it for low quality, but it was perfect also! And I considerd it a fast rip!

Course some things to consider might be drive speeds, CPU, Ram ect.
Mine is 1700xp, 1gig ram, 120gig slave drive for editing, Sd-5002 burner used for ripping also. I think it only reads like 12x, so not sure about ripping spead?

[Thunder In Paradise]

I have a new problem guys. I just got The Godfather Part 2, and would like to copy it using DVDShrink 3, but for some reason, it'll get to about 52-53%, and then just freeze during analyzation. Since Part 2 is a double-disc set, I need a compression program in order to squeeze it down on to 1 disc. I was wondering, is it possible to rip the whole movie with another program, like DVD Decrypter, and then use DVDShrink's editing to compress the video files down and whatnot, then use CloneDVD to burn it? I don't care how I rip it, I just want to strip the movie down to 1 audio channel and the video files so I can fit them all together. Thanks!

[ddlooping]

Thunder In Paradise, you can indeed try to rip with DVD Decrypter first.

Here is a user-friendly guide:
http://www.dvdshrink.info/dvd-decrypter.php

[Thunder In Paradise]

Loop, there's no doubt that DVD Decrypter can rip the movie and whatnot, but what I was needed to know, is can DVDShrink work as an "editing" program as well as a rip program? Editing as in being able to load the movie ISO to DVDShrink, and remove all the un-needed crap, like you would if you had ripped it with DVDShrink in the first place.

[FOO]

You might consider trying it instead of
playing on the forum.
Your mother isn't here

[ddlooping]

Use DVD Decrypter in "File" mode, making sure you select all the files,
then DVD Shrink "Open Files".
The exact same functions will be available.

Hence the link to guide.

P.S: if you only have an ISO to work with, you could try "IsoBuster" to get it back to a DVD-Video format.

[MackemX]

Loop, there's no doubt that DVD Decrypter can rip the movie and whatnot, but what I was needed to know, is can DVDShrink work as an "editing" program as well as a rip program? Editing as in being able to load the movie ISO to DVDShrink, and remove all the un-needed crap, like you would if you had ripped it with DVDShrink in the first place.

I don't know what FOO is talking about, I may have missed something but I don't wanna know anyway

you can't do this editing with DVDShrink just yet, but there are ways to do it without upsetting the DVD stucture. Two methods I use are Ifoedit and Menuedit. If you are interested just say and I'll post the info, It just all depends on what you want to keep really

[Thunder In Paradise]

Ok guys, I know there's probably some doofy walkthrough that will answer this question for me, but I find that you guys can answer faster and have better answers. So, when using DVDShrink, and you choose "Ratio" to determine the movies' new compression ratio, if you choose a lower setting (40%) does this mean that the new movie will be compressed to 40% of it's original size, or does it mean that it will be compressed to 60% of it's original size? I just find it confusing sometimes because you'd think if you raised the compression (to like 70-80%) that the movie would be really small, when in fact, when you do this, it actaully increases the file size. I just find it weird sometimes. Later!

[FOO]

If you read the release notes on 3.0 vs 2.3
you will notice that the compression ratio has been inverted.
now it reflects what remains - 99% means that almost
nothing was removed.


... and do us all a favor .... get rid of the stupid picture on all your posts.

[tompika]

... and do us all a favor .... get rid of the stupid picture on all your posts.

[FOO]

What ?
you like the massive pictures that are larger than the posts ?
Nobody else has one. There are avatars

OK fine.

[tompika]

you like the massive pictures that are larger than the posts ?

I hate them

[FOO]

Thank you
I thought maybe yet another person had me on their list

[FOO]

Send me your address and i'll mail you a new doughnut with jam

[tompika]

THE METAL SLUG ARMY WILL GET YOU!

[FOO]

Hey I just noticed. you modified your doughnut message.

[tompika]

Hey I just noticed. you modified your doughnut message.

https://www.videohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=654587#654587

Send me your address and i'll mail you a new doughnut with jam

tompika@fuckthatshit.org

[Thunder In Paradise]

Thanks. FOO, what's your problem? Just because I don't have some stupid tiger/bear/I don't know what wearing sunglasses as my avatar, with NO signature, doesn't mean you have to rip on mine. What do you mean my sig is bigger then my message? Does that mean I everytime I post now I have to write like 3 paragraphs or something so my post is bigger then my sig? My sig is just fine, it's awesome, I'm proud I made it, and so far, your the only one who doesn't like it, so... :P

[Roderz]

FOO wrote:
... and do us all a favor .... get rid of the stupid picture on all your posts.

Ditto .. why should I have to resize my bowser window just to read a post because the pic TOO big.

g_shocker182 TOOK THE JAM OUT OF HIS DOUGHNUT . . . g_shocker182 DID . . .

[tompika]

The METAL SLUT ARMY will get you too/two !

[Thunder In Paradise]

Well.....why the hell are you surfing the Internet at 800x600 anyways? What's a matter with you? You think I'm going to sacrifice my art just because your crappy monitor can't display a decent resolution? Get real.

[Roderz]

I wouldn't call a 22' monitor running @ 1600 x 1200 a 'crappy monitor'
We dont all run browsers at full screen I like to be doing somethine else and be able to keep an eye on that to but just for you I'll change my ways.