can you copy a backup??

[mdubnik]

All I'm wondering is if you make a backup of a disc, can you then turn around and just do a disc copy of it?

Or, stated another away, if you have a backed up DVD on a DVD-R, is there any way to take that DVD-R and copy it to a different DVD-R?

I've been wondering about this...maybe someone can help me out...

[PyrosofT]

And might I ask why you would want to do that.

To answer your question as long as you have removed macrovision and the like then you can copy it like a data DVD.

[gizmofanv]

I have tried backing up DVD-R using DVD Decrypter successfully!
I ripped as ISO to HD and copied it to new DVD-R.

[g_shocker182]

Yeah; its easier too as you have probably figured out by now.

[Gurm]

Macrovision has nothing to do with it.

Once you've made ONE copy, the CSS is gone and it's just data on the disc. You may copy away.

Can you? Legally? I'm not gonna get into that, and I'll assume you're being honest.

- Gurm

[mdubnik]

Thanks for the insight guys. I figured that if I rip the files, shrink them, then burn, I obviously have everything on 1 disc and could treat it like a DVD-5 and just use Decrypter.

As for the legality of it, I TOTALLY understand and I was not getting at that at all. I was just bored at work wondering how that would work.

Believe me, I don't mess around with that illegal crap...I have enough to worry about without the Feds breathing down my neck.

[Dubber]

You can do it and this is how and why I did:

I got a DVD+RW disk ( for testing ), ripped a DVD to HD using DVDShrink, burned a copy to DVD+RW using Nero Express and tested on home DVD player, it worked. Then I just copied that DVD+RW to DVD-R using disk copy feature of Nero.

P.S. My DVD burner is -/+ capable and I got DVD+RW disk as it's rated at 2.4x as opposed to -RW that are normally 2x.

[housepig]

as for the legality, obviously you don't want to ask this about backup commercial discs.

but for example, I backed up a bunch of concert footage of my old band. now if any of the other members want copies, I can run them off of the disc I've made, rather than keeping 5Gb of material on my hard drive forever...

[Gurm]

Yep. If you have a good reader and a good burner, you can just slap the two discs in (original and blank) and hit "copy" on your favorite program, since there's no CSS left.

- Gurm

[jdizzy40]

Federal prison is not a nice place!

[vance43211]

some companies put mark errors on their discs intentionally

so you can't make a backup of a backup

there are ways around that, however

[poopyhead]

To answer your question as long as you have removed macrovision and the like then you can copy it like a data DVD.

macrovision is to prevent analogy copying..(i.e. VHS)...so, errrr....nope

also, you wouldn't be using RecordNow Max, would you??? in that program, yes...you do burn the DVD as DATA DVD.... however, in Nero and Nero Express, you would burn the DVD as DVD VIDEO

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@mdubnik,

simple solution:

1) copy the VIDEO_TS folder from your DVD-R to your hdd using windows explorer

2) burn the files in that folder using your favorite DVD burning proggie (i.e. Nero Express, which i use)

[zzNyQuilzz]

some companies put mark errors on their discs intentionally

so you can't make a backup of a backup

there are ways around that, however

what is the way around this cuz ill make a backup of an original then when i try to make an additional copy of the dvd-r cuz it starts to get scratched up sometimes i get errors and cant copy tell me what is the solution to get around this please

[poopyhead]

it starts to get scratched up sometimes i get errors and cant copy tell me what is the solution to get around this please

can you at least copy the VIDEO_TS folder from the DVD to the hdd???

[vance43211]

it starts to get scratched up sometimes i get errors and cant copy tell me what is the solution to get around this please

can you at least copy the VIDEO_TS folder from the DVD to the hdd???

you can do that

or instead of doing disc copy

with Nero

burn as dvd video

and pick the Video_ts folder from your dvd drive (Nero will ignore the errors this way and only pick up the dvd files)

this will take awhile

then burn

with instantcopy

instead of doing disc copy

navigate to the main video_ts ifo of your dvd in the drive

[thxkid]

I find it easy to use DVDshrink on DVDR to copy to hard drive 8-10 minutes, then use recordnow (data mode) to reburn to DVDR, by the way these are not backups but are of my own Home video's on DVD or programs I got off dishnet. But I am sure this method will work for any DVDR you want to make another copy of.

[vance43211]

yeah you can rerip with SmartRipper too

it should take 5-7 minutes

[Gurm]

Why, why, WHY would you use a ripper?

It's no longer protected.

Drag... drop... done.

Gpar_

[vance43211]

it's faster than copy and paste

[poopyhead]

it's faster than copy and paste

how so???

[vance43211]

a dvd5 takes me about 12 minute to copy and paste

a dvd5 rip is about 5-7 minutes

somebody mentioned that on this site months ago

(about how reripping is faster than coping and pasting)

and i have reripped ever since

[Gurm]

Depends on your drive, the drivers, etc.

On my machine they take exactly the same amount of time.

- Gurm

[roach76]

I don't understand any of this!

Just do a damn Disc Copy, it will work, it's the easiest and fastest way!

[Gurm]

There is that, too.

- Gurm

[HideOut]

I didnt read it all but there are times when you cant copy a copy though. Dont DVDxCopy block this?

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[Gurm]

No, DVD X Copy doesn't block this...

What happens is that their program sees that it's a copy made with that program, and refuses to copy it. Any other program will copy it just fine.

There are NO cases in which you "can't copy a copy". You can, always, every time.

(Unless you purposely added CSS to the copy... which is hard and stupid and maybe not even possible, I just didn't want people flaming me for saying "never".)

- Gurm

[vance43211]

I don't understand any of this!

Just do a damn Disc Copy, it will work, it's the easiest and fastest way!

no it won't

a lot of companies insert marked errors on their dvd movies

on purpose

so you can't make a copy of a copy of a dvd movie

[Gurm]

Umm...

ONCE IT'S COPIED ONCE, IT'S GOT NO PROTECTION.

This "marked errors" line you keep touting makes no sense.

Once it's copied, it's copied - and deprotected 100%.

- Gurm

[HideOut]

Thats true, I forgot I had used programs like Nero's Image recorder to copy an xcopy of mine. Its been ages since I used that program though. Ah well.

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[vance43211]

Umm...

ONCE IT'S COPIED ONCE, IT'S GOT NO PROTECTION.

This "marked errors" line you keep touting makes no sense.

Once it's copied, it's copied - and deprotected 100%.

- Gurm

go burn you a dvd movie with instant copy 7 and SOME (actually most) versions of Nero (5.5.9.14 is one of the version that does this. that is the version that i have)


go back and do a disc copy with your finished dvd disc

and let me know what happens


to save you some time

go on this site and read some old posts

watch how many times this question is asked


"why can't i make a copy of my copied movie'

read how they will tell you about these errors they are getting trying to do it

i usually just answer their question

but i won't tell them why it happens

because everytime that i do

somebody come on here and tells me

that i don't know what i am talking about



p.s. if you ever want to copyright a homemade dvd disc use ic7

they have a part where you can insert mark errors on your discs intentionally , so people can't do a direct disc copy


but like i said, there is a way around that too