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    Hello,
    I am not that well clued up on the dvdr side of things, so please excuse my ignorance, also, apologies if this is in the wrong section.
    I've got a problem with the burn process on this 105.
    I am using record now max, i dont have a dvd-rom so i use the copy option and pull it onto the hdd with the 105.
    At the moment i'm using Datawrite yellows, which are Ritek G04'S.
    Normally it should take 15 or so minutes.
    The problem is the writer stops during the burn, on average about 7 times, so from taking 15 mins it now takes 55 mins.
    Also, when i check device manager>IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers>Secondry IDE channel>properties>Advanced settings
    It should be set to Ultra DMA....but it has changed to PIO??
    Re-installing the Secondry IDE channel cures this.

    My system specs are;


    Win XP Pro sp1
    Duron 800Mhz
    80Gb Maxtor Diamond(50Gb Free)
    512mb DDR PC2100
    MSI GeForce4 MX440 tv-out
    Asus A7N266VM
    Lite-on 12x
    Pioneer DVR 105

    The Hdd is on Ide1 as master, on it's own.
    The Pioneer is on Ide2 set as CS,with the Lite-on 12x set as CS.
    Now obviously it goes without saying that the CPU needs upgrading, but somehow i dont think thats where the problem lies.
    I have tried using different media also, but this does not make any difference.
    Whenever it's done this, if i leave it alone and wait, the films are sometimes watchable, but most of the time not.

    If anyone could offer any help on this, i'd really appreciate it.
    The coasters pile is growing, and at £1.30 per disc, i can't really afford to make any more.

    Thank you.
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    Firstly, what are you trying to copy? If it's commercial DVDs, you can't just disc copy. So what software are you using to transcode?

    I'm not too sure about this part, but you may need to make one of the drives in IDE 2 a master and set the other as slave for them to work properly.

    Assuming the problem does not lie in the issues mentioned above, try a diferent burning software. There are some free ones in the tools section of this site.

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    Oh, I forgot the best advice:

    Get yourself a DVD-RW disc and experiment on it until you get your problems sorted out so you can stop making coasters.

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  4. Try setting jumpers on DVD to master and CD to slave to see if that helps..
    What else do you have running at the same time ? as my cpu in my burning puter is a duron 750 and that copes OK, but all it does is rip and burn but never at the same time also no background process running virus checker etc... Havent used data writes i use pinco printables all run OK at 4X burn.
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  5. Get yourself off to Bowlers Computer fair Its on every saturday in Manchester out by Trafford Park will save you a bundle on your Disk costs.....
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    Morloc, sorry i should have said, they are already copied films i am trying to copy, and why didn't i think of dvd-rw
    iooi, i will try the jumpers and see if it makes a difference.
    As for processes running in the background you may have hit it on the head there, i have norton constantly enabled, even when i'm not connected to the net.
    I never have anything else running when burning.
    The point you made about Bowlers, well i go there everyweek the price of these particular discs have come down a little this week, i use these because of standalone player compatibility,, not that i would now, yet, but a m8 never has any problems with them.

    I am going to try and burn with Prassi PrimoDVD 2.0, and see if that helps.

    Thanks for the replies lads.
    P.S. Further to my last, after looking in control panel>system management>Event Veiwer>system, i have found 3 errors, all naming the source as Atapi, the error says...The Device, \Device\Ide\Ide port1, did not respond within the timeout period.
    What has timedout here, the HDD or the 105?
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  7. Ah well worth a try.
    The ones i use are 4X Ritek Inkjet Printable DVD-R which you can get from BlankDisk Shop Also notice they sell the ones you use @84p each....Have used the ICE PRINTABLE 4X DVD-R with no problems as well.
    Not personally had any problems with these disks working in any stand alone players tried in 6+ as well.
    Which burning software were you using before? I Use Nero 5.10.28 and have had no problems so long as i burn "without multisession"
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    iooi, the media on that site are not the same as mine, those are Princo dye, I am using Datawrite x4, with the Ritek G04 dye, think these might have dropped to £1.20 per disc now.
    As for my burning software, i was using Record Now Max V.4.5
    I removed that and installed Prassi and tried a burn with that, the problem seemed to be worse with that than with RNM,
    anyway, i took your advice and disabled Norton Internet Security, i burnt a film i had already ripped to my Hdd, as a data job, and i used a Datawrite 2x Classic Grey(princo, i think) . It was estimated to take 28 mins, and thats how long it took, IT DIDNT STOP ONCE.
    I checked it and it plays perfectly.
    So my friend, it looks like your suggestion worked, and the problem was Norton.
    However, i havent tried a copy job yet, with 4x media. I hope it works then.

    Thanks iooi, and morloc for the advice and help, much appreciated.
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  9. Glad you are sorted
    I guess we all go through these trials along the way.
    Sounds like Norton was hogging your resources along the way. Guess you will be investing in a new M/B and processer soon then.
    Thats the way i went bought a new M/B processer memory and case shared the Hard drives out till i could afford a couple of new ones. Now have the 2 PC networked and operated from one keyboard and monitor thanks to a great bit of free software VNC, save a lot of desk space and money. Just use one PC for ripping and burning and nothing else.
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    @iooi

    Earlier today, I sent a failed motherboard back for in-warranty replacement, and was just sitting on my back deck thinking about what to do with it when it comes back. I have a case and a few other components that I can build a spare PC with, and I was just considering the possibility of having a PC dedicated to video. I don't have room for a second monitor, keyboard, mouse on my desk, and was still rolling this around inside my feeble brain when I read your post. Zoowie! could this free VPN be the solution to my problem? If you don't mind, could you provide a reference to this software or a URL? I would greatly appreciate it.

    Best regards,
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  11. Link here
    This is real easy to do. You will only need to connect the keyboard etc up to the second puter while you install the software once its on thats it. All the info you need is on the site.
    I tried using windows remote in Xp but had no luck, this little program (vnc) is fantastic can even access over the internet if you like...
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    I've had the same tiresome problem with XP Pro and my Plextor PX4012A CD Rewriter for many months.

    You can find some tips about why it is that Microsoft have decided to randomly disable Ultra DMA on perfectly valid UDMA-compliant devices at startup here:

    http://www.cdrlabs.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=6645

    btw I've seen the same problem running XP Home on a Lap Top with a Matshita DVD/CDRW. The only fix I have ever found is to run a program at startup that scans the registry and warns you if it finds that UDMA has been disabled.

    Try checking this registry key:

    HKLM\HARDWARE\DEVICEMAP\Scsi\Scsi Port 1\DMAEnabled

    (Change the SCSI Port ID according to which IDE controller the device is attached to)

    You can then reset the device detect checksum for the relevant IDE controller and restart the machine, which forces a redetect. The key will be something like:

    HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Class\{4D36E 96A-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}\0001\MasterIdDataCheckSum

    I have never seen Win2K do this with the exact same hardware and software combination.

    Good luck.
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    iooi, Thanks for that link, it looks like a very handy piece of software.
    You read my mind with regards to upgrading the Mobo and CPU.
    What was going to do was buy a splitter box and leads, roughly £32.00,
    Looks like that will be staying in my pocket now.
    Thanks M8, Much appreciated.
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    Thanks for the link, iooi. I'm going to check it out today.

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  15. No problem guys glad to be able to help.
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