48kHz audio in DVD2SVCD

[ekenet]

Is there anyway to encode the audio in DVD2SVCD to 48kHz instead of 44.1kHz?

[flaamer]

Under the audio tab, uncheck the box for audio downsampling.

[sk]

Right. It's more a matter of not down sampling, than actually re-encoding. I actually just posted a question regarding the need to down sample from 48 to 44.1 at another site. And it seems appropriate to ask it here. Aside from ending up not conforming to the SVCD standard, is there really any reason TO down sample from 48Khz to 44.1 for an SVCD that is going to be played either in a DVD stand alone player, or a computer? I mean, why bother wasting the time and degrading the sound if the ultimate destination is for the disk to be played on a DVD compatible player that can take full advantege of the higher sampling rate?

sk

[ekenet]

Forgot to mention, I'm not ripping from a DVD. I will make an SVCD out of an XviD file. The reason why I want to do this is because I want to burn the SVCDs onto a DVD-R (https://www.videohelp.com/svcddvdr.htm)

[Adder_78]

Right. It's more a matter of not down sampling, than actually re-encoding. I actually just posted a question regarding the need to down sample from 48 to 44.1 at another site. And it seems appropriate to ask it here. Aside from ending up not conforming to the SVCD standard, is there really any reason TO down sample from 48Khz to 44.1 for an SVCD that is going to be played either in a DVD stand alone player, or a computer? I mean, why bother wasting the time and degrading the sound if the ultimate destination is for the disk to be played on a DVD compatible player that can take full advantege of the higher sampling rate?

sk

You're absolutely right! There is no point to 48->44.1 conversion. I just don't know why people are still doing that... SVCD standard is so outdated...

[FOO]

If your player is anal and adheres to the spec it wont
work. I never tried it on mine.
Lotta players now will play anything - even raw mpegs.

i guess you will just have to try it.

[sk]

That certainly makes sense, foo. But do you happen to know if a DVD player that would play an SVCD file configured with 44.1Khz would NOT play that exact same SVCD configured with 48Khz? I guess what I'm asking is whether or not it's the standard that the machine responds to, or the inherent capability of that machine. For example, my car stereo couldn't play a CD with 48Khz sound even if it got a special dispensation from the Pope. (Well, maybe then.) Because it doesn't have the capacity to play anything at 48Khz. But I figured since a dedicated DVD player does have that capacity, it should follow that it would be able to play an SVCD with 48. But now that I think about it, from what you said, even if it's a DVD player, and not an SVCD player, if it's looking for a particular standard from that particular SVCD, then an SVCD with 48Khz sound might play video but no audio, or it might not play at all. I'll post back as soon as I've completed an SVCD that's in the "oven" now, and can see for myself how it turned out, at least for my particular DVD player. I know you can't extrapolate from one DVD player to another, but my particular one - Samsung C631P, is so finicky and limited, it's like Mikey from the Life commercial. (i.e. It won't play it; it doesn't play anything.) In fact, about the only thing it DOES play is SVCD's. So if it'll play an SVCD with 48Khz sound, I'd imagine just about any player would.

sk

[Adder_78]

That certainly makes sense, foo. But do you happen to know if a DVD player that would play an SVCD file configured with 44.1Khz would NOT play that exact same SVCD configured with 48Khz?

sk

I would say that 99.999999% of DVD-players will play SVCDs with 48kHz audio track. 8)

[sk]

Yuppers Puppers. It worked!

[whatever]

My dvd player has sync issues with 48khz audio on svcds, the exakt same in 44.1 works like a charm.

So to ensure compatility with all players, audio should be 44.1.

[thayne]

Forgot to mention, I'm not ripping from a DVD. I will make an SVCD out of an XviD file. The reason why I want to do this is because I want to burn the SVCDs onto a DVD-R (https://www.videohelp.com/svcddvdr.htm)

If you are going to put it on DVD don't use SVCD. Go in to the advanced settings and set the output to 352X480 or 720X480

Under Misc: Set DVD2SVCD options to advanced
Under CD image check "dont make image"
Under frame server set resize to CVD 352X480 (If the source resolution is pretty high, set it to 720X480, otherwise 352X480 is good)
Under audio un-check downsample to 44.1KH

[whatever]

Yep.. seems like a good suggestion, since it will make it standard.

[Adder_78]

My dvd player has sync issues with 48khz audio on svcds, the exakt same in 44.1 works like a charm.

So to ensure compatility with all players, audio should be 44.1.

is there sync issues if you play those 48kHz-svcds with you computer? What DVD player are you using?

[whatever]

The svcd's are fine if i play them using windvd, the player is a Centrum DVD-C100.

[Adder_78]

The svcd's are fine if i play them using windvd, the player is a Centrum DVD-C100.

Strange,,, Is the source audio 48 kHz or 44.1 kHz that you use in those SVCDs?

[whatever]

Since the source is DVD the original sampling frequency is 48KHz.
What i suspect that my player does is that it is simply playing the 48KHz file at 44.1 thus making it more and more out of sync.

So what I'm saying is, stick to the standards since there ARE players out there that won't play it if it doesn't conform to the specs.

[sk]

Since the source is DVD the original sampling frequency is 48KHz.
What i suspect that my player does is that it is simply playing the 48KHz file at 44.1 thus making it more and more out of sync.

So what I'm saying is, stick to the standards since there ARE players out there that won't play it if it doesn't conform to the specs.

That makes sense, but to a certain extent, it also makes sense to burn what will work on your particular setup, although that does limit one to one's own setup. If/when you get new equipment, and/or want to share a copy with someone who has a different setup, sticking to the standard is probably the smartest way to go; at least it covers as many bases as possible.

sk

[Adder_78]

If you have DVD-player that is not willing to play SVCD with 48 kHz audio then here is the solution:

1.) Put very heavy rocks inside the DVD-player.
2.) Go to the sea, lake, river or other place that contains lots of water.
3.) Throw the DVD-player in to the sea or lake etc...
4.) Go and buy better DVD-player for example Pioneer...

simple... 8)

[sk]

(Could probably elimnate steps 1-3 and just skip to 4; although it wouldn't be as much fun. HEHEHEH.)

sk