What do you think of this?/ Paint Shop Pro 8

[g_shocker182]

Here's my first creation with using the program, which I found to be very useful. This logo will go on my website soon. Tell me what you think.

[racer-x]

It's not bad, but could use a little more detail. The plain white letters could use some color, maybe graidiant.

Personally I think Photoshop is the best image editor.

[g_shocker182]

You can't really see the lights very well so i guess I need to do something about that.

[funkguy4]

Looks like some very slight interlace-looking thingies in the light ray. I don't know if this is due to compression tho. Still, I give it a 9.1 on the 10 scale!

[g_shocker182]

Looks like some very slight interlace-looking thingies in the light ray. I don't know if this is due to compression tho. Still, I give it a 9.1 on the 10 scale!

Yeah I saw this. I used a luminescence option in PSP8 to recreate the lighting, and it turned out pretty good except for that.

[funkguy4]

Dude, you took the pig's avatar.

[EddyH]

Got some rough edges there... on the lights, i can understand, have that prob myself and it's a bitch to fix (usually needs a lot of by-hand pixel punching). But how come the letters are? Did you cut & paste them from elsewhere rather than using the text tool?

Hrm..

As for the light gradients, I can't offer any help, apart from saying that it just looks wierd don't think it's a compression problem, they usually look distinct from how that is.

[g_shocker182]

Got some rough edges there... on the lights, i can understand, have that prob myself and it's a bitch to fix (usually needs a lot of by-hand pixel punching). But how come the letters are? Did you cut & paste them from elsewhere rather than using the text tool?

The text tool made the words extremely pixelated So I used MS Paint and used PSP to clean up the rough egdes. (They were worse)

[funkguy4]

Is there no Blur brush?

[g_shocker182]

Is there no Blur brush?

Blurring made it worst so like I said I used the "clean the edges" tool.

[flaninacupboard]

The light pools almost look as though they're rendered in 16 bit colour or something. odd. Reminds me of the effect you see on the backdrops in Futurama.

[EddyH]

MS Paint for cleaning up the pic and text, when you've got Paintshop? Why?!

[g_shocker182]

MS Paint for cleaning up the pic and text, when you've got Paintshop? Why?!

Why? Because I've worked with MSPaint for the last six years and I got PSP8 the other day.

[EddyH]

um... ok then

i still advise you ditch it and crash-course into the new program. paint has little to offer that psp doesnt

[funkguy4]

um... ok then

i still advise you ditch it and crash-course into the new program. paint has little to offer that psp doesnt

I would say PSP can do anything Paint can do better, PSP can do anything better than Paint. 8)

[Solarjetman]

Well, Familiarity is a huge advantage. Paint is not too powerful, but if it does what you want it to do, and you are already familiar with it. There is not much reason to rush into learning something different. Just let it come naturally. I did the same thing when I first bought PSP7. I used MSPaint for awhile, and occationally still do, as I learned PSP. Working with individual pixels is a little more straight-forward in MSpaint.

Another thing is the Hex editor I use is over 8 years old! Obviously it does not have a lot of advanced functions. It works, I like it, that is all that matters.

[Will Hay]

Were the whites lines in the light stream intentional?
They look superb.
To me it looks like a couple of studio lights in front of a white painted brick wall.
Was this intentional?
How did you create the lighting effect?
So did you cut and paste in the camera/light units?
Will

[funkguy4]

Were the whites lines in the light stream intentional?
They look superb.
To me it looks like a couple of studio lights in front of a white painted brick wall.
Was this intentional?
How did you create the lighting effect?
So did you cut and paste in the camera/light units?
Will

I don't think he meant for thos lines in the light beam.

[Will Hay]

Were the whites lines in the light stream intentional?
They look superb.
To me it looks like a couple of studio lights in front of a white painted brick wall.
Was this intentional?
How did you create the lighting effect?
So did you cut and paste in the camera/light units?
Will

I don't think he meant for thos lines in the light beam.

No, probably not, but can you see what I mean?
How it looks like a white painted brick wall and the light is just illuninating it?
Looks very cool, to me anyway!
W.

[tgpo]

Were the whites lines in the light stream intentional?
They look superb.
To me it looks like a couple of studio lights in front of a white painted brick wall.
Was this intentional?
How did you create the lighting effect?
So did you cut and paste in the camera/light units?
Will

I don't think he meant for thos lines in the light beam.

No, probably not, but can you see what I mean?
How it looks like a white painted brick wall and the light is just illuninating it?
Looks very cool, to me anyway!
W.

You see it mainly near the top of the light, near the bulbs. It does att this cool kinda look to it, but I doubt it was intentional.

[Will Hay]

You see it mainly near the top of the light, near the bulbs.

Yep, and that's the clever part.
The light would be the brightests nearer the bulb, therefore more of the 'back wall' would be illuninated.
The further down the light beam the less of the back wall you would see.
Excellent, intentional or otherwise
Will

[g_shocker182]

Excellent, intentional or otherwise
Will

Much appreciated

New and sortra improved, based on your suggestions:

[flaninacupboard]

that looks much better, but i think the light pool from the lamp on the right should be about 10-15 degrees further clockwise to match up right.

[EddyH]

Well the text is still looking a little... funny... (certainly not horrible) but otherwise that's sweet in comparison. Well done 8) 8)


= There's the question of familiarity. Working with individual pixels in Paint is a lot easier =

Um? You *do* know PSP has a zoom tool and a pixel-width pen tool right? Just like paint Though I can see where you'd be coming from if you meant 3.1 Paint, where you get a good handy real-size preview of the part you're working on in a corner of the zoom view. THAT was good.
As for familiarity, they're not that different to work on really, just PSP has more tools and more flexibility (which i admit may be a little hard to get used to). If you just play with it for an hour or so it all starts to come very easily though. Not too difficult to figure out how to set brush size for example, or what hardness, opacity, and density mean. Better to quickly familiarise yourself with a good tool than to not use it at all in favour of a frankly primitive familiar tool.
Pretty much the two things I can think of paint doing 'better' than PSP:
1. Quick colour selection. Providing you only want to choose from 24 different colours, and the default ones are all you want to use, or you've already set the ones you need. (does it have an eye dropper tool yet? or is it still trial-and-error / spray 'n' pray?). PSP is a bit harder to quickly choose primaries from, but is far ahead in the eyedropping / choosing whatever colour you want with a couple seconds of work stakes.
2. Quick ability to make ellipses and box shapes. Flat colour, non-anti-aliased ones.

okay, i'm getting deep into a discussion about psp vs paint. this cant be good

[Solarjetman]

Um? You *do* know PSP has a zoom tool and a pixel-width pen tool right? Just like paint

Yes, I do. But lets not hijack the thread. My point is not that Paint is better than PSP, I don't think it is. My point was if a simple program does what you need it to do, there is nothing wrong with using that over a more complex program. Especially if you have experience with the simple one.

And to answer your question, Paint does have an eyedropper

[g_shocker182]

It took me a few days to find out how to unselect an area . I kept clicking "undo", instead of the "select nothing" in one of the menu areas. Yes, I will have to get used to the complexity, but MS Paint opens quicker .