Cut out a piece of movie

[komanch]

Can you tell me the best way to cut out unwanted piece of movie from the original DVD, but in such way so after removal of that unwanted piece I could burn the whole movie to DVDR without that unnecessary scene?
Do I have to cut out the whole cell or is it possible to cut out only a part of it?
Will the audio and subtitles be also removed after the removal of video?

[SaSi]

I don't believe you can have reliable results without resorting to demuxing everything and authoring the DVD from scratch. While you are at the VOB level, you can only remove whole chapters, and then the resulting VOB may be unusable because of broken links. Timing, I think, will be a mess also.

[komanch]

Is it possible to do it in such softs as: DVDMaestro, DVDWorkshop ....... ?

[SaSi]

Certainly. The trick is to remove exactly the same amount of audio + video. I think the only way to do this is by decoding to AVI (use Huffyuv codec to avoid quality loss) and VirtualDUB to do the cutting.

To cut the unwanter portion, mark the beginning and the end with the arrow markers and press Del. Save the AVI file and re-encode.

Subtitles are a problem because all of them following the deleted portion will have their timing wrong.

What I would do (with Scenarist - but I am almost certain DVDMaestro can do it as well), is the following:

Demux m2v video and AC3 audio to separate streams and rip the subtitles as if no portion of the movie will be deleted. Feed them to Scenarist - or DVDMaestro.

Then, set a chapter point at the start of the portion to be deleted and another chapter point at the point where the deleted portion ends. This will give you three chapters in the movie. Then comes the trickly part. Instruct the end-of-chapter point (cell) for chapter one, to skip to chapter 3, avoiding chapter 2. This is how some DVDs have the option to include or avoid deleted scenes.

I agree the method is crude, but if the part you don't want isn't long, it's ok. Otherwise, you have to go with option 1 and re-time the subtitles.

Hope that helped you get some ideas.

[komanch]

Thank you for your tips SaSi.
I don't even consider the second option because the scenes are too long (3x9minutes).
Isn't it possible to do it without re-encoding, using Vobrator or IfoEdit at the Vob level?

[komanch]

I'd like split DVD to 2 DVDR without re-encoding but with a section removed. How can I do it?

[SaSi]

To your first question, my answer is: "I don't know"

I find the "surgery" some people are doing with IFOEdit magic

I tend to do all such work "the proper" way, using an authoring tool.

To the second question, the answer is obviously yes. You need to split the movie and audio tracks (Tmpgenc should do fine). If you have subtitles, you need to split the scripts (to the authoring application) as well.

[Gazorgan]

You can remove a whole chapter, that's typically 3-10 minutes. A chapter is defined as the jump points on the remote the -->| and |<-- buttons. Just edit it out.

[komanch]

hmm...

[komanch]

Ok,
Can I do it using DVDShrink? (option Re-author / Start-End)
e.g. I want cut the last 20 min. movie but without re-encoding session.
It's possible?