Problem with Riktek media, am unsure how to solve. help?

[Gillsfan]

Ive burnt a film onto my Riktek G03 overprint disks and i have a problem with it.

It will play in my tv/dvd goodmans combi with no problems, but when it comes to my other 2 players it feezes and stutters like crazy.

I thought Riktek G03's were really reliable and compatible? Is it possible its not a media issue? I assume its the media as I have no problems with 1 player but not the other.

Please help, im vexed as to why usually reliable disks play up in my sony??

[Bob W]

Most players require the DVDR to be authored and the DVD files put into a VODEO_TS folder then that folder is burned.

[Xtasy2002]

What bitrate?

It is possible that it's been encoded or burned improperly. If the bitrate is too fast for your other 2 players to recognize.

[Faustus]

The Ritek disc are some of the best of the cheap disc. But in the end they are never as good as the high end media in most cases. Everyone is asking about you methods, this is good they may be able to find something to find out why you cannot play the disc. If all else fails then perhaps those players do not like them for some reason. What would help is more info on how your burning you disc and what programs you using.

[Gillsfan]

Thanks guys for quick responses.

In the latest issue of freezing disks, Im using DVD Shrink to re-author to hard drive and then burning using nero.

Im not sure on how to change my bitrate on dvd shrink, any ideas?

It probably is something im doing wrong, I just thought as 1 player played it and the other 2 didnt that it had to be a media compatibility issue.

[garryheather]

I can't see it being bitrate - there are standards for this sort of thing.

More likely is the overprints are to blame themselves. Overprints have been double handled by the manufacturers - chances are the balance is screwed on the discs, or they've got fingerprints and scratches on them that wouldn't be there on "new", A grade discs.

[spectroelectro]

COmpatibility with standalone DVD players is spotty at best. It's probably not hte Riteks, though the simple way to make sure is to buy one of another brand of disk and burn the exact smae program mateiral. If you still get freezing/stutter probelms, it's not hte media.
Typically, in my experience, when media goes bad you get macroblocking all over the place. Big ugly splotches of macro blocks in the midst of hte picture. If you're not seeing this then it's probably not bad media.
DVD authoring at video lengths over an hour on a single-layer DVD-R is problematic. The DVD standard was not intended ot hold mroe than about an hour on single-layer media. Pro DVD authoring programs like DVD maestro will flat-out refuse to author single-layer DVD-Rs with 90 or 120 minutes of video on 'em. This should tell yo that cramming 90 minutes or 2 hours of vide onto a single-layer DVD-R is pusshing the DVD spec beyond its official boundaries, and depending on the standalone DVD player it may cause playback problems.
The solution I use is simple -- if a movie requires more than 4.3 gigs of storage space, I split it up onto 2 DVD-Rs. Trying to squish and crush and jam 2 hours or 2.5 hours or 3 hours of DVD video on a single-layer disc can be done if you play enough games with bitrates and authoring programs, but it's asking for trouble.

[jydgreat]

Nero is not compatible with a lot of standalone players, espacially expensives ones. Burn it using CloneDVD or Pinnacle InstantCopy.

[garryheather]

Nero (even the earlier versions) has yet to let me down on ANY player that supports DVD-R. Even my expensive one.

Now the media, that's another matter.

[Hardcoreruss]

Nero is not compatible with a lot of standalone players, espacially expensives ones. Burn it using CloneDVD or Pinnacle InstantCopy.

Don't know where you get this from. My Sony cost me 550 quid (player only) and it works fine. My friend has a DENON DVM-4800 and he can play backed up dvd's fine. Where did you get this idea from ?

I would say that it is simply the media, some players like some, some players don't

[overloaded_ide]

My limited experience is that I had 15 disks I took on a trip with me this summer, of those 3 resulted in disk error messages or no disk messages on a player where I was at, but all the rest worked perfectly!
All the same cheap disks from the same spindle even! I think they are princo's, white tops, 1x disks burnt at 1x.

All 15 work perfectly on my stuff, computer and Norcent DVD player.
But 3 failed and 12 worked on an Alegro Dual VHS DVD combe unit.

Had to be the way I burned those 3! After getting home I tried them and they still work for me! Also there was a computer where I was with a dvd drive and they worked on that computer of course.

Now I do vary my bit rate to fill my disks to about 4 gig! Lower rates for longer movies, higher rates for shorter movies. I try to stay at 4 gigs so if I run over a little it's not a problem, plus I read some cheap disks can have problems near the edge. So, I try to stay away from the edge a little

Since those were the first 15 disks I had made, maybe a few were non-compliant files I had captured. Also to begin with I had used Nero to burn my disks. I think I sometimes used the VIDEO DVD, but changed to data udf 1.02 latter. So maybe that was my problem?
Unfortunately I don't know how I captured which files or burned what disks now, or even which 3 did not work. So I can't do any testing to figure out why 3 did not work.

BUT, they were all the same media from the same spindle, burned with the same burner, and played on the same players, and 3 of 15 did not work on the Alegro but all 15 work on Norcent Dp300 and on computers.

[fravel]

DVD Maestro can perfectly author single-layer DVD-Rs with 90 or 120 minutes of video.

[overloaded_ide]

from the tools section,

No demo available and it is no longer updated or sold(you may find it on ebay).

I would not find that to be an option at a $5000, price as listed in the tools section also

However if DVD Maestro (and other programs) are not longer being sold, then would finding a copy somewhere still be considered stealing?

I mean if it is not being sold or upgraded, then it has been abandoned and should become free use or public domain. Did the company go under or just drop the program in favor of something else?

[sagalout]

My bet would be nero is at fault. I discovered that everything I burn on nero (using the guides here for settings) works fine on my Pioneer and my friends Sony, but wont work in my samsung, a friends Limit DVD player and another friends Panasonic. Whereas discs burned with recordnowmac or copytodvd work perfectly in all of the above players.

[jydgreat]

Don't know where you get this from. My Sony cost me 550 quid (player only) and it works fine. My friend has a DENON DVM-4800 and he can play backed up dvd's fine. Where did you get this idea from ?

I would say that it is simply the media, some players like some, some players don't
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From my own experiment. I burn 12 -rdvd on Nero, then we try on pioneer player two works ,10 don't. Then we try them on another player, sony 11 works, 1 don't, then another player Cyber all 12 works. and on DVD rom, all work. If I burn using Clone DVD and Instant copy all works with all the players we tested. So this is not where I get from somewhere.

[Saminai]

Try using ImageTools to burn your VIDEO_TS folders. I've used it countless times without incident.

By the way, spectroelectro, I'm sorry but that is utter nonsense. He's not "asking for trouble" by squeezing 2 hours onto a dvd-r. Where do you come up with that? The standard doesn't care how long the video is at all. Its all up to the codec and how much bitrate you're using. If anything, squeezing more video means lower bitrate which is even easier for the player to play back!

I've backed up over 100 movies onto dvd-r without problems. Believe me, there's nothing wrong with it...the only thing is, if you squeeze too much onto a dvd-r you may not like the picture quality. But it doesn't mean ti'll play back bad. Heck, watch satellite tv, those guys really squeeze stuff even worse!

[FulciLives]

Try using ImageTools to burn your VIDEO_TS folders. I've used it countless times without incident.

I must agree. Use the "classic versionL of ImgTool to create a single IMAGE file that you can then burn with DVD DECRYPTER.

Works like a charm on just about any DVD player. I too have had issues with NERO when it comes to DVD-R burning and now I use nothing BUT ImgTool and DVD Decrypter for burning and not a single problem and I have a lot of friends that borrow DVD-R discs since I tend to record a lot of TV shows they missed and wanted to see etc.

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

[thayne]

Don't know where you get this from. My Sony cost me 550 quid (player only) and it works fine. My friend has a DENON DVM-4800 and he can play backed up dvd's fine. Where did you get this idea from ?

I would say that it is simply the media, some players like some, some players don't
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If it's wet drink it !!!

Are you kidding? It's common knowledge that nero sucks for burning DVD's. Just because it works in your player doesn't mean much. The fact is Nero burned DVD's are far from compatible in quite a few players. Use recordnowmax.

[Faustus]

Well I'm a big fan of Nero, but recently someone on the forums followed my burn instructions and ended up with a working disc, that would not play back on a PS2, not I own a PS2 but never played a DVD in it before, and sure enough it wouldn't play in mine. Ok I say UDF only it is, thats what a DVD is anyway. No problems at all, until I take a movie to my cousins and it will not play in his older player. Next we tried the DVD-Video templet, same problem, fine for me, not for my cousin.

Like I said I love nero, and I like the new Nero Recode for Episode DVDs, to this day I use Nero for all my CD burning, BUT for DVD Burning I now use RecordeNow Max, it works in all situations.

I'll stand up for Neros DVD burning no longer, its fine for some or even most out there, but in the end its not as perfect as it appears to be.