Premier 6-->MPEG via Frameserver/Main Concept

[ewingr]

I just tried MC Demo today, and it is FAST! Based on a small test, it is takes about 5% of the time TMPGENC does. I suspect on a larger file, it won't be that impressive.

One problem: I am using a FrameServer (Videoserver093 by videotools) to send to TMPGENC. I tried the same with MC, and got audio, but no video.

Do you know if I can frameserve from Premier to MC, and if so, how to go about it? I've searched the site, but don't find anything. I'll try searchin more. Probably try a post directly on this topic as well.

Thanks

Thanks

[alenhard]

Hey Roger,
Sometimes the videoserver plugin is set to serve video only by default. When you start the frameserver, check all the tabs and make sure that video+audio is selected on the pulldown menu. It's the same one where you choose frame size.

I use the frameserver all the time with MSPro and Mainconcept, and it works beautifully. I'm pretty sure Premiere will work with it as well. Let me know what happens.

[ewingr]

Yeah. I did check that. I tried all 3 options that had Video+Audio: Program (Video+Audio); Video+Audio; and Transport(Video+Audio). The Transport didn't work at all.

Both of the others gave me audio only.

Although, I am a little confused. You said

on the pulldown menu. It's the same one where you choose frame size.

. On the version I have (from help about: 1.03.01) stream type is below MPEG type, and I don't see anywhere a setting for "Frame Size". Were you going by memory, and mis-state that, or maybe we are on different versions?

At any rate, I did find, on the main screen, options for Vide0+Audio, that I did try, as noted above.

Thanks.

[alenhard]

Sorry Roger, I was going from memory. Looks like you found the tab you needed anyway.

What kind of audio are you trying to convert to? Is it possible that you might be missing a codec of some kind in your playback software?

When you are frameserving, does the server say that audio data is being served (is it checked?), or does it not show that it is serving any audio?

That might tell us a little more about what is happening.

[txpharoah]

Premiere 6.5 has Mainconcept built-in (as Adobe MPEG Encoder).

[alenhard]

I guess that would be wonderful if he had 6.5....

Txpharoah- I've been hesitant to upgrade my copy of Premiere 6 to 6.5 (because I don't use it all that much, usually only for a few small projects)- and because I figure "if it ain't broke, don't fix it!" Do you have any idea if the MC encoder in 6.5 really yields the same results as the standalone MC encoder?

I would assume it does, but sometimes you can never really know...

[BJ_M]

it does yes .. IF you upgrade to the latest main concept premiere version update (beta 3 i think) found on the main concept web site

[alenhard]

Well, I guess that's one way to prevent pirated copies of Premiere from giving away free MC encoders as well!

Aside from providing my product serial (which I'm assuming I would have to do), does the upgrade cost anything?

I'd hate to pay for both the Premiere upgrade and the MC upgrade!

[txpharoah]

The difference between 6.0 and 6.5 is night and day. I can't believe I ever used 6.5. Trust me, 6.0 is broke. Only error with 6.5 is bugs, but unsintall/reinstalls always fix them.

[BJ_M]

Well, I guess that's one way to prevent pirated copies of Premiere from giving away free MC encoders as well!

Aside from providing my product serial (which I'm assuming I would have to do), does the upgrade cost anything?

I'd hate to pay for both the Premiere upgrade and the MC upgrade!

the upgrade is free - it has nothing to do with the standalone version available for premiere owners at reduced price ...

the upgrade and other mpeg files for premiere are located here:

http://www.mainconcept.com/adobempeg/downloads.html

[ewingr]

I've heard that 6.5 is very slow. Any truth to that?

Also heard there are a lot of differences in the way you do things. Titles are difficult to work with...

So, I've been holding ofof.

Any truth to that info. Other thoughts?

(By the way, my problem is with getting video, not audio). Would sill like to figure out how to do it form 6.01, as, even if I upgrade to 6.5, I will probably use 6.01 for a while during the transition/learning process).

Thanks

[txpharoah]

No truth to that at all. I find 6.5 easier to use, as they fixed some errors from 6.0. Honestly, if you didn't see the intro screen you probably wouldn't noticed a visible difference between 6.0 and 6.5. Just its performance is the only real difference, and 6.5 is better. MUCH better. And it comes with the Adobe MPEG Encoder (MainConcept).

[mkelley]

Yes, I agree with those who say upgrade. The price of the standalone Main Concept is $150 and so is the upgrade from 6.0 to 6.5 -- so you get the upgrade for free (yes, you don't get the standalone, but quite frankly I haven't found anything I can't do from within Premiere, including batch processing. If you are desparate to have the standalone, MC offers it for $48 for 6.5 owners).

This really is a no-brainer -- I waited a long time before upgrading and I wish I had done it sooner. It mostly adds titles and the encoder, but it's very rock solid.