it's no good, i'm going back to tsunami

[curryman]

ever since dvd2one came out i was in my oils, backup a dvd in under 1hr, what a breakthrough....brilliant
tried it and loved it played it and it was fine
done another and had a little skip, no problem must be bad media me thinks, next one fine then one that skips.
so i try instantcopy still a few little niggles here and there aswell as my chapters not being where they are supposed to be.
so i go back to encoding overnight with tsunami and guess what everything disappears.
i guess what i am trying to say is these progs have great potential but i think they have both been rushed out to compete with each other and us as the guinea pigs find the main problems, now correct me if i'm wrong but i didn't see the word BETA on any version of these progs.
so tsunami it is.
There, glad i got that off my chest......

[defense]

ever since dvd2one came out i was in my oils, backup a dvd in under 1hr, what a breakthrough....brilliant
tried it and loved it played it and it was fine
done another and had a little skip, no problem must be bad media me thinks, next one fine then one that skips.
so i try instantcopy still a few little niggles here and there aswell as my chapters not being where they are supposed to be.
so i go back to encoding overnight with tsunami and guess what everything disappears.
i guess what i am trying to say is these progs have great potential but i think they have both been rushed out to compete with each other and us as the guinea pigs find the main problems, now correct me if i'm wrong but i didn't see the word BETA on any version of these progs.
so tsunami it is.
There, glad i got that off my chest......

Yep, no wonder the DVD2ONE thread is dead like Elvis! I said it when I tested it first. Everyone was quick to jump to conclusions and get "defensive" on me when I experienced the same with my tests. I noticed the skipping and pausing too and that concerned me more then the artifacts. Either way, I haven't used it since. There are many others who have experienced the same problems but are ashamed to admit it because they jumped to conclusions too early. Hopefully that will be a valuable lesson. Don't get over-excited about a product with a single test where you haven't even watched the backup in its entirety. 8)

[SaSi]

In that case, may I suggest you give Mainconcept and CCE Basic a try? They are both good (much better than Tmpgenc) and at least 2-3 times faster. If you properly select settings with Mainconcept, you can get brilliant picture quality at 4000kbps average bitrate and encoding times of 50 minutes for a 2 hour movie (on a P4/2.67).

[thxkid]

umm, it must just be me cause I have no problem with DVD2ONE, oh thats right I use the more stable +R format and not the iffy -R that has problems with ALL programs people use with it including TMPGEnc, so keep your -R's and be on these threads all the time crying cause NERO is bad also, just because it does not work with your format and I'll happily being using DVD2ONE, DVDxCOPY, DVD2DVDR, NERO and Recordnow DX plus movie factory 2.0 without a prob and thats after about going through over 200 +R blanks by various media brands also.

[LanceSteel]

umm, it must just be me cause I have no problem with DVD2ONE, oh thats right I use the more stable +R format and not the iffy -R that has problems with ALL programs people use with it including TMPGEnc, so keep your -R's and be on these threads all the time crying cause NERO is bad also...

I use dvd2one, Nero and -R's (all three of the evil programs/formats) and haven't had any skips, pops, cracks or 'bad burns.' If you are using Nero, you just don't use the DVD-Video setting when you burn a dvd. Also burn at 1x not 2x.

The more stable +R format and not the iffy -R? I'll let that comment slide.

[defense]

umm, it must just be me cause I have no problem with DVD2ONE, oh thats right I use the more stable +R format and not the iffy -R that has problems with ALL programs people use with it including TMPGEnc, so keep your -R's and be on these threads all the time crying cause NERO is bad also, just because it does not work with your format and I'll happily being using DVD2ONE, DVDxCOPY, DVD2DVDR, NERO and Recordnow DX plus movie factory 2.0 without a prob and thats after about going through over 200 +R blanks by various media brands also.

txhkid, I bet you have a HUGE (+) sign on your PUxxY huh?

You waste your time (not like it's worth much) as well as other people's time babbling about the + and - format on every damn thread. Get a life bro. You post responses about what burners people own and what formats are used WITHOUT even reading. You really do sound like a broken record. Try and focus on the topic of the thread one of these times and stop babbling about all the other B.S. Now ONCE AGAIN, all of my "TESTS" were done on +RW media, NOT the MINUS (-) format.


By the way KID, here is a post of yours back on January 26th where you complained about DVD2ONE not even COMPARING to DVD2DVDR because of "PIXELATION." Now all of a sudden, you stick your turtle head out of its shell and talk about media formats, as you do on ALL topics. Pathetic...very..very pathetic. Here's your QUOTE which contradicts the crap your saying now about you NEVER having a problem or noticing anything different with DVD2ONE. Let me guess what your response to this will be....you didn't use "+" media, that's why you had artifacts. lol....unreal


Which story you gonna keep kiddo? Here's the quote:
January 26th 2003, thxkid said:

I tried DVD2ONE and the quality is less then what you get with DVD2DVDR, with DVDR I see no loss of picture quality compared to the original, with "ONE" I can see some very slight pixelation in the background area's, but most people would rather live with a 10-20% picture loss compared to waiting 4 hours to re-encode with DVDR, compared to 20-30 minutes with "ONE". I have no idea how its re-encoding the entire movie that fast and still get a very good picture, but this also may improve with future ugrades, so I am keeping an eye on this program for future releases and $44.95 is not a bad price.

[disturbed1]

umm, it must just be me cause I have no problem with DVD2ONE, oh thats right I use the more stable +R format and not the iffy -R that has problems with ALL programs people use with it including TMPGEnc, so keep your -R's and be on these threads all the time crying cause NERO is bad also, just because it does not work with your format and I'll happily being using DVD2ONE, DVDxCOPY, DVD2DVDR, NERO and Recordnow DX plus movie factory 2.0 without a prob and thats after about going through over 200 +R blanks by various media brands also.

or should we read this post from you?

Also disagree I use the $1 -R's Riteks in my DMR-E20 and they play in any thing I put them in and I am on my 4th 50 pack, I use the $2 Ritek +R's in my HP burner and its burned every 50 I put in there with only 1 defective one and the other 49 played in over 40 different DVD players including the panasonics that say they do not play +R's, I even use +RW's and they work in everything I have tried, though have not tried a pioneer yet.

So come on man let's get the story straight

curryman,
Glad to see you go back to the traditional ways. It's much more rewarding this too.

[Bob W]

I have backed over a hundred DVD's with DVD2one and not one disc has a single problem. The same is true for DVDX Copy however I don't use it as much as DVD2one.

[igalan]

I have backed up the following movies with DVD2One, some with 1.02, some with 1.0 (I own all those DVDs, BTW):

Star Wars I: The Phantom Menace
Star Wars II: The Attack Of The Clones
Life Is Beautiful
Pearl Harbor
Gladiator

I burn to DVD+RW to test on my DVD player, and then to DVD-R with Nero 5.5.10.15a (some were burned with Nero 5.5.10.7b). They all play perfectly, no skips, no problems, except Life Is Beautiful where fast fordward or backward doesn't work well (weird, but the movie plays fine). Most of those movies are almost 3 h long, some multi-angle (Star Wars). I just keep one audio track, and one subtitle.

I use Smartripper to rip the movies (file mode, selecting all files). I don't know if this makes a difference. I have also tried some other movies that I also have like 5th Element and some others. I never had problems.

Version 1.02 fixes a skip in some DVD players where the original DVD-9 changes from layer 1 to layer 2 (or something like this ) but I never ran into this issue.

[Faustus]

Load up the DVD files before you burn them in ifoedit and click dvdplay. If its skips there is a DVD2ONE problem, if not then its not your culprit. I'm not a fan of DVD2ONE but I've never head of it causeing pause/skip issues.

[SatStorm]

I like DVD2one. It is not perfect, but I like it.
For simply DVD backups, I think it is OK. For distribution, it isn't. Let's clearify this:
For a backup, you need simply things. This proggy offers a cheap, fast and good solution for those simply things. The best of it's kind.
But If you want a full Copy of a DVD, then yes, there are issues...

I strongly believe, that for those who really want a back up their property, DVD2one is among the best solutions/offers today.
For those who want a copy of a disc, not for simply backup reasons, then this program is not enough.
Sure, there are also some quality freaks out there, they don't like dvd2one for it's quality, but they are minority. And I don't talk for the users of this forum. The users of this (and other well known) forums, are advance power users, which want the best and they are seeking for it.
We are not mainstream users here. We are the most power users exist today! The next step beyond us is to turn pro. We are at the top of the lader concerned that we are users.
My message is don't judge from our view, let's try judge from a lower view the situation.

SO: For the mainstream user (not us), a DVD backup from DVD2one is perfect. Even a good VCD gonna look amazing to the eyes of this mainstream user! The general rule is that anything VHS-like is acceptable, IF the TV screen is less than 30'' That is more than the 85% for the world (and the world ain't only US)
If now, you are a power user and you want more, then search for this "more". My opinion is that this "more" never gonna be automatic, easy to use and a "hit and go" solution. So, for those few power users, programs like dvd2one are useless.

Finally, about DVD-/+ R story, I vote for DVD-R and the way I see it, the most of the global market, are like me. If now +R is better, I don't really care. I want cheap solutions. -R offers those solutions to me today, +R don't. That is what only counts on me! A year ago, there was a hope for +R to succeed. The time passed and -R still is cheaper. The way I see it, -R win. I don't care for the more or less issues, I gonna solve them when I meet them. I care only for price. For cost. Minus win the War!

[spaceman]

defense wrote:

Yep, no wonder the DVD2ONE thread is dead like Elvis!



I see this different & would say the DVD2ONE thread being dead means peolple don't have many issues/problems with it.Don't most if not all threads on this section relate to advice and problems.You only have to look at the DVD2DVDR & IC7 threads with poeple having loads of trouble getting things to work correctly,which emphasizes my point.

[defense]

Load up the DVD files before you burn them in ifoedit and click dvdplay. If its skips there is a DVD2ONE problem, if not then its not your culprit. I'm not a fan of DVD2ONE but I've never head of it causeing pause/skip issues.

Just for fun I decided to test DVD2ONE once more, and after 16 minutes the output was finished. I burned to a +RW disk and everything looked pretty good....EXCEPT....and here it was AGAIN...a SKIP! The skip I am referring to is SO slight. It isn't like the pauses and skips you get when you have bad media. This is a SKIP that when you watch the clock on the DVD PLAYER, it continues normallly. It is kind of like a JERK...a slight pause and then a quick fastforward...all within a split second. It is DEFINITELY DVD2ONE that causes this.

I am not sure why, but I had to test it again to make sure. The truth is that with this issue, many people could live with it. But I definitely can't. I doesn't just do this once, it does this every TEN minutes or so, JUST LIKE the tests I conducted before. However, It seems to only do this on certain movies. I does NOT do this on all movies. I'm not sure why DVD2ONE causes this to occur, but I won't be using it, so I could really care less.

[neomaine]

defense,

I think a better test would be to play that movie on your computer via a program BEFORE you burn. This would eliminate your burn program and media from being the culprit.

Your test to RW still leaves open the issue of your standalone not liking your media or the drive/program you used to burn.

Just a simple critique to see if we can isolate DVD2ONE as being the issue. I just picked up my DVD burner (Cendyne 105, thanks OfficeMax)yesterday and will start testing this weekend with the various programs. So, I'd be curious as to your results.

[curryman]

defence wrote

I am not sure why, but I had to test it again to make sure. The truth is that with this issue, many people could live with it. But I definitely can't. I doesn't just do this once, it does this every TEN minutes or so, JUST LIKE the tests I conducted before. However, It seems to only do this on certain movies. I does NOT do this on all movies. I'm not sure why DVD2ONE causes this to occur, but I won't be using it, so I could really care less.

well, it seems some of us have problems and some don't or just don't see them,
it's a fairly free world and as i said above i personally have decided to go back to the old fashioned way, if some of you are happy with your results then i truly am very pleased for you
but until they fix these bugs i won't waste another single disc testing.
P.S

as for the dvd2one forum being dead maybe it has something to do with the way rene speaks to people i personally don't like being spoken down to by anyone, no matter how good there assembly code knowledge is.

[defense]

I think a better test would be to play that movie on your computer via a program BEFORE you burn. This would eliminate your burn program and media from being the culprit.

MEDIA and Burning software has already been ruled out. I have tested the VOBS and they do the same thing! Again, it is ever so slight. I have made OVER 100 backups to this point and NOT A SINGLE one of them have the issues these two movies created with DVD2ONE have.

I can say it is ABSOLUTELY an issue with DVD2ONE. I don't post B.S and I don't post EXCITING comments and results when I've only tested ONE movie,...and only tested that ONE movie for a few minutes. These tests have been thorough and DVD2ONE causes this. I'm not sure why, I just know it does.

There have been others who have experienced the same thing. Curryman being one of those people. I'm not happy with the quality on certain movies either, so DVD2ONE is definitely not for "ME." However, I have said it before, and I guess I'll say it again..if DVD2ONE works for "you" then continue to use it.

[hitechjunkie]

something else i've just recently discovered is that dvd2one "behaves" differently when executed on win2K vs. winXP...

[defense]

something else i've just recently discovered is that dvd2one "behaves" differently when executed on win2K vs. winXP...

That's interesting because i'm using WINXP. Can you elaborate a little on HOW it behaves differently? Give some examples on what it does differently on the two systems?