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    Hello,

    Over a month ago I installed DirectX 9.
    I have WindowsXP and ATI All In Wonder Radeon (7200).
    Since than I lost my TV Capture and DVD play from ATI Control Panel.
    The latest drivers update from ATI website didn't help.
    I just e-mailed ATI, but as I heared in the forums here, they never reply e-mails.
    Can I correct the problem by installing DirectX 8.1?
    Or else, what can I do?

    Thanks.
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  2. What display driver version are you running?

    Did you have the latest WDM capture drivers (a seperate download) installed?
    As Churchill famously predicted when Chamberlain returned from Munich proclaiming peace in his time: "You were given the choice between war and dishonor. You chose dishonor, and you will have war."
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    Hello Pal,

    Thanks for your reply.

    Originally Posted by Mirror_Image
    What display driver version are you running?

    Did you have the latest WDM capture drivers (a seperate download) installed?
    I downloaded and installed the latest Display Drivers and WDM Capture Drivers from ATI website a month ago and earlier this night - they are not compatible with DirectX 9 -- at least not on my puter.

    Take care
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  4. If you have an ATI card and are having problems the place to go is

    http://driverheaven.net<br /> <br /> There you will find quite a bit of info about A...<br /> <br />http://drivers.driverheaven.net/misc.php?page=uninstall2

    A complete driver uninstall and reinstall will probably get you back up and running. Be sure to follow the uninstall guide at driverheaven, I know going into the registry can be a little scary for some but as long as
    you follow the guide you should be fine.

    Equally important is to follow ATI's install guide in particular as to when and where to reboot....not just following the onscreen prompts from the installer.

    Good luck

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  5. DirectX9 is still in beta testing and should NOT be installed unless driver
    or program ask for it.The old addage applies"if it ain't broke don't fix it".
    My advice is to:
    a)read my guide on ATI videocards:https://www.videohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=123428&highlight=install+optimize+optimi...ati+videocards
    b)use System Restore

    c)reinstall OS
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    The full official version of directX 9 is out.
    It is not a BETA.
    The beta testing was done before this full release.

    Although I agree don't install it unless you have a program that requires it.

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  7. Yes DirectX9(FULL)is out but what I meant by beta testing was that software programmers are still integrating the technology into their product.
    http://www.microsoft.com/windows/directx/downloads/drx90.asp
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    Can I beg the question why you installed DirectX9 when absolutely nothing uses it yet? I'm not singling you out, this is a bigger problem with people installing 'every codec they can find', and having all kinds of problems that only a system restore can fix.
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    Hello Pal,

    Originally Posted by Guidoo


    If you have an ATI card and are having problems the place to go is

    http://driverheaven.net<br /> <br /> There you will find quite a bit of info about A...<br /> <br />http://drivers.driverheaven.net/misc.php?page=uninstall2

    ....

    Guido
    Sorry, I am utterly frustrated and devastated.
    I followed your advise, and the advise of the other fellow, accurately, meticulously, to the letter.
    It did cost me a whole day (which I don't actually have, being overworked as I am).
    It also cost me health, since I am on a strict health program, which I couldn't follow, spending the whole day next to my 'puter.
    I was dumb and naive enough to trust Microsoft in the first place by installing DirectX 9.
    I was also dumb and naive to follow your suggestions.
    Now, not only ATI TV and DVD don't work, also Power DVD 4.0 and Zoom Player 2.90 don't work.
    What's more frustrating, part of my screen is chopped off and there is nothing I can do about it.

    Apparently -- that's how it seems -- you never encountered the problem I mentioned here in the post -- problem with Direct 9 and AT drivers.
    It seems you just went through the motions and gestures of your past experience having general problems with ATI drivers, not the specific problem I mentioned about DirectX 9.
    I know your advise was given out of good will. Yet, you not being careful enough to read my specific problem had cost me way too much -- in time, money and health.
    Please, in the future, spare the readers of this forum, treat them with a little more respect and care -- make sure you actually do have an answer to the problem they actually present.

    Sorry, pal -- this was too much painful and costly to me.
    I wish you'd go through what I went through today.

    To all readers of this forum -- take a good amount of caution to various advise given here.

    To all -- please your help. Can anyone assist me with my predicament, out of actual experience with ATI drivers and DirectX 9?

    Walk in peace.
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    Hello Pal,

    Originally Posted by Gazorgan
    Can I beg the question why you installed DirectX9 when absolutely nothing uses it yet? I'm not singling you out, this is a bigger problem with people installing 'every codec they can find', and having all kinds of problems that only a system restore can fix.
    You are absolutely correct, I was dumb and naive enough to trust Microsoft.

    Take care
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    Hello Pal,

    Originally Posted by MOVIEGEEK
    ...
    My advice is to:
    a)read my guide on ATI videocards:https://www.videohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=123428&highlight=install+optimize+optimi...ati+videocards
    b)use System Restore

    c)reinstall OS
    Sorry, I am utterly frustrated and devastated.
    I followed your advise, and the advise of the other fellow, accurately, meticulously, to the letter.
    It did cost me a whole day (which I don't actually have, being overworked as I am).
    It also cost me health, since I am on a strict health program, which I couldn't follow, spending the whole day next to my 'puter.
    I was dumb and naive enough to trust Microsoft in the first place by installing DirectX 9.
    I was also dumb and naive to follow your suggestions.
    Now, not only ATI TV and DVD don't work, also Power DVD 4.0 and Zoom Player 2.90 don't work.
    What's more frustrating, part of my screen is chopped off and there is nothing I can do about it.

    Apparently -- that's how it seems -- you never encountered the problem I mentioned here in the post -- problem with Direct 9 and AT drivers.
    It seems you just went through the motions and gestures of your past experience having general problems with ATI drivers, not the specific problem I mentioned about DirectX 9.
    I know your advise was given out of good will. Yet, you not being careful enough to read my specific problem had cost me way too much -- in time, money and health.
    Please, in the future, spare the readers of this forum, treat them with a little more respect and care -- make sure you actually do have an answer to the problem they actually present.

    Sorry, pal -- this was too much painful and costly to me.
    I wish you'd go through what I went through today.

    To all readers of this forum -- take a good amount of caution to various advise given here.

    To all -- please your help. Can anyone assist me with my predicament, out of actual experience with ATI drivers and DirectX 9?

    Walk in peace.
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  12. Originally Posted by W_Eagle
    Hello Pal,




    Sorry, I am utterly frustrated and devastated.
    I followed your advise, and the advise of the other fellow, accurately, meticulously, to the letter.
    It did cost me a whole day (which I don't actually have, being overworked as I am).
    It also cost me health, since I am on a strict health program, which I couldn't follow, spending the whole day next to my 'puter.
    I was dumb and naive enough to trust Microsoft in the first place by installing DirectX 9.
    I was also dumb and naive to follow your suggestions.
    Now, not only ATI TV and DVD don't work, also Power DVD 4.0 and Zoom Player 2.90 don't work.
    What's more frustrating, part of my screen is chopped off and there is nothing I can do about it.

    Apparently -- that's how it seems -- you never encountered the problem I mentioned here in the post -- problem with Direct 9 and AT drivers.
    It seems you just went through the motions and gestures of your past experience having general problems with ATI drivers, not the specific problem I mentioned about DirectX 9.
    I know your advise was given out of good will. Yet, you not being careful enough to read my specific problem had cost me way too much -- in time, money and health.
    Please, in the future, spare the readers of this forum, treat them with a little more respect and care -- make sure you actually do have an answer to the problem they actually present.

    Sorry, pal -- this was too much painful and costly to me.
    I wish you'd go through what I went through today.

    To all readers of this forum -- take a good amount of caution to various advise given here.

    To all -- please your help. Can anyone assist me with my predicament, out of actual experience with ATI drivers and DirectX 9?

    Walk in peace.


    Hello "Pal"

    As for the advise that MovieGeek and I posted being "misleading" ...oh ...please.
    Both sets of links from MovieGeek and I are general ATI driver trouble guides. I dont know of anyone specifically who have used MovieGeek's guide ( I'm sure a few have at least tried it as there are many members here) the links I provided were to a site where people discuss ATI products, driver problems along with capturing issues. It's an ATI fan site
    for pete's sake.

    Until recently the mods there would take the latest driver release from ATI and "tweak" them to work better. The only reason they don't currently is it seems that the last 2 sets from ATI have been reasonably stable.

    The "Uninstall Guide" at Driverheaven has worked for an awful lot of people, the guide was written by the same people who worked on the tweaked drivers. Believe me they have a lot more knowledge with regards to ATI products and issues than I or most other people. The guide was created and tested with input from site members ( somewhere in the neighboorhood of 15,000 members I believe).

    If you had taken the time to perform a search of the forum posts there you would have found a post regarding the uninstalation of DX9. http://www.driverheaven.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=8395

    Others have had similar problems to yours. The links I provided were quite general and only intended to point you in the right direction. Please do not blame MovieGeek and I for your problems. You had a problem to start with...suggestions were offered....you were looking for a silver bullet fix. Very difficult to give without very specific info regarding your system.

    Finally regarding the PM you sent me.......well lets just say it's best you didn't post it here in the open forum as you would most likely be banned.
    How about if you take a long deep breath and come back when you can be civil to people who are trying to help.


    MovieGeek did you get a similar message in your PM box ??


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  13. Yes I did Guido and I reported W_Eagle to the Mods.I'm sure W_Eagle
    is a 14 year old(if not physically than mentally)who doesn't want sound advice from us,he just wants to blame us for his mistakes.
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  14. the only mistake here W_Eagle, is that MovieGeek and Guidoo took their "TIME" and effort to respond to your post. What's even more of a mistake is that Guidoo took even more time AFTER you ripped him to even suggest you would get more help if you were civil. You have issues, and I don't mean with your Operating System. Good luck lookin' at a chopped off screen with no DVD or Capture functionality in the months to come. I hope that doesn't cause more health issues for you.
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  15. @ W_Eagle: If you don't grow up and behave civilly on this forum, then you will be banned.

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  16. Dont have ati drivers and have not tried this fix but looks like it might be your only hope. Go to this website - http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/tweak_downloads.htm there is a patch that will remove ...articular one.
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    Hello pal,

    Originally Posted by Guidoo
    ...
    If you had taken the time to perform a search of the forum posts there you would have found a post regarding the uninstalation of DX9. http://www.driverheaven.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=8395
    ...
    Guido
    Before you have posted this post, while strrugling with my problem, I made a searech in www.driverheaven.net, yet, somehow the search didn't work.

    After reading this post of yours I went to the link you gave, downloaded the file and it worked -- DirectX 9 is gone and the previous one is restored.

    I still cannot capture video but being overworked as I am I didn't find the time to try and deal with it. I have an idea about what to do -- it will have to wait 'till the comming weekend.

    Take care
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    Hello pal,

    Originally Posted by karris56
    Go to this website - www.kellys-korner-xp.com/tweak_downloads.htm there is a patch that will remove direct x 9 and restore 8.1 or whatever you had.
    Thanks for focused reply.

    I have already uninstalled DirectX 9.

    Take care
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