Geforce2 vs Hauppauge WinTV

[kuanlian]

Anybody managed to get a GeForce2 MX card worked together with a Hauppauge WinTV GO FM? I'm getting this irritating system hang whenever I attempt to open TV2000 in OVERLAY/PRIMARY mode. Sigh...

I'm using Iwill KD266 m/b, Duron 750@750.

[Roginator]

My solution?

Give up! <g>

I have a WinYV-Go and an A7A266 1.4 GHz Athlon. Also a Gainward GeForce2 card. I finally gave up on the poor picture the WinTV-Go was giving me and re-installed an old STB TV card.

The WinTV software seems pretty lame. For watching TV try Dscaler. Great picture! For capturing try AVI-IO (or VirtualDub if you can get it to capture with your setup).

[LanceSteel]

Do you have the Geforce2 and the TVcard on the same irq? You DO NOT want to have them on the same IRQ. My old STB TVPCI card does not work if it is sharing an IRQ with my Geforce2 MX but it works great if they are on different IRQ's.

[kuanlian]

I tried having them on separate IRQs but the system still give me hang. I really find it strange that this WinTV card is able to work in my Asus P5A-B m/b (ALI chipset), but now not able to work on the latest ALI M1647 chipset. I'm probably going to give it a one last try, using a PCI VGA card and see if it still give me hang.

[Sefy]

I've got an AMD Tbird 1ghz/266 with an EPoX 8KTA3 board, and a GeForce2 MX400 and a Hauppauge WinTV-Theater, and i'm having the time of my life using both of them without a single problem.

1) Check and see if you got BIOS update for your boards
2) Make SURE the cards are NOT using the same IRQ!!!!!
3) Get LATEST drivers for your IDE, nVidia and WinTV card

NOTE: Hauppauge released new VFW and WDM drivers and also new WinTV suite, I haven't seen any diffrence myself, but you might want to check it out.

[AndrewDV]

Hi,

One of my machines (AMD Duron 700 + FIC AZ11) uses that combination. The only items to be concerned over is to shut off ACPI, use the VFW drivers (WDMs performed inconsistent), and make sure everything is on its own IRQ. That's all I had to do. It works great.

[Sefy]

Like AndrewDV, said, use VFW instead of WDM, it's much more compatible with older and newer applications, and will cause less trouble, I didn't have to turn off ACPI myself, but remember if you had it one way and you turned it the other way, Windows will start redetecting every piece of hardware in your system!

[kuanlian]

Guys, thanks for the response. I just did an experiment using an old ATI Rage II+ PCI card and guess what? It WORKS!!! This is strange... so now it boils down to the AGP slot has some incompatibility problems or perhaps and more likely the Abit Siluro GF2 MX card is at fault. Hmm... guess I need a non-GF2 AGP card to verify this...

[Sefy]

Or try a diffrent GF2 card from another manufacturer which may work better.

[kuanlian]

No use, even my voodoo3 card gives system hang. I don't think it's the GF2 card now, most likely it's the chipset problem.

[SHS]

Hang in there kuanlian I belive it WinTV2000 or it could be the Driver it self some people are getting this and other don't.
At first I was for sure it was ACPI problem but it turn out it not a ACPI problem.
I had a lot WinTV-PVR user are runing in to this as well.
What ever "fix" they had before was removed in the current ver they put it back in.


<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: SHS on 2001-08-10 05:28:43 ]</font>

[kuanlian]

What brand of m/b are you using?

[SHS]

It dosen't matter what MB it is the problem is corp up in ALi, VIA, AMD, and even BX chip motherboard.
I have Abit BH6 BX chip with P3 600.

[Sefy]

I would suggest you check all the following, and all those who are also having problems should include a details review of their entire hardware components so we can compare and try to fix it for everyone. My hardware consists of the following:

EPoX 8KTA3 Mainboard (KT133A)
GeForce2 MX 400 with TV Out (RCA/SVHS)
WinTV-Theater (PAL Tuner version)
Sound Blaster Live! 5.1
Conexant 56k v.92 PCI Modem
RealMagic Hollywood Plus DVD Decoder

I'm using all latest drivers and BIOS for my system, in the GeForce2 i'm using Beta Drivers v12.90 as i've had LOADS of problems with the official 12.41 from nVidia, including playback problems using PowerDVD.

[olddrunkard]

try to use an other pci slot for the tv-card. on my computer it works.

[SHS]

Sefy this how you do ture details hardware report.

Windows2000 with SP2, DX 8.1, IE6 RC2, WMP8.0 RC2.
Intel P3 600E slot1.
Abit BH6 Rev 1.0 Motherboard (Bios: BH6SS), Win2k buildin drv.
2, Micron 128meg SDRAM 168pin DIMM (PC100), Win2k buildin drv.
Creative Lab's SB Live! Value (CT4670), LW3 with WDM3300a drv.
Edimax EN-9130TX NIC (Realtek RTL8139C), Realtek 3.95 drv.
I/O Magic MagicWriter MRW-4432 4x4x32 (Firmware: Z041), Win2k buildin drv.
Sigma Designs Hollywood Plus MPEG Decode (EM8300 Rev: B), H+ 2.1beta drv.
Toshiba DVD-ROM SD-M1202 (Firmware: 1028), Win2k buildin drv.
Intel USB Video Camera III (Model: 330), Intel 1.0 drv.
Maxtor DiamondMax Plus 30gig 7200 IDE 53073H6 (Firmware: DAC1), Win2k buildin drv.
Western Digital 8.4gig 5400 IDE AC28400R (Firmware: 17.0), Win2k buildin drv.
Lexmark Z12 Color Jet Printer USB, 5.00.2134.1 drv.
ZyXEL 128k ISDN Omni.net USA (Firmware: 2.0), Custom mde INF drv (Made by Me) and ZyICM 3.27.
Zoom 56k Dualmode External Modem (Model: 2949L) (Faxing Only), Zoom 2.0 drv.
1, D-Link USB Hub 4 Port (Model: DSB-H4), Win2k buildin drv.
2, Belkin USB Hub 4 Port (Model: F5U021), Win2k buildin drv.
Microsoft SideWinder Precision Racing Wheel USB, SideWinder 4.3.0.253 drv.
Microsoft SideWinder FreeStyle Pro USB, Win2k buildin drv.
Microsoft SideWinder Precision 2 USB, SideWinder 4.3.0.253 drv.
Microsoft IntelliMouse Explorer USB, IntelliPoint 3.2 drv.
Microsoft Natural Keyboard Pro USB, IntelliType 2.1 drv.
Umax Astra 3400 USB, VistaScan 3.73 drv.
Hauppauge WinTV-PVR Model 880 (Model: 45231, Rev: B423, Decoder: BT878a, Tuner Model: Philips FM1236), PVR VfW 3.11.19206 & MPEG 1.4.19205 drv.
ViewSonic G773 (Rev: 1), Win2k buildin drv.
3dfx Voodoo5 5500 (Bios: 1.06 Rev: 1), 3dfx 1.04 drv.
Cambridge PCWorks FourPointSurround FPS1000 speakers.

IRQ Number, Device.
1, PC/AT PS/2 Keyboard (84-Key) "Not in use".
2, Programmable interrupt controller.
3, Communications Port (COM2).
4, Communications Port (COM1) "Not in use".
5, "Not in use".
6, Standard floppy disk controller.
7, Printer Port Disable "Not in use".
8, System CMOS/real time clock.
9, Intel 82371AB/EB PCI to USB Universal Host Controller.
9, Realtek RTL8139 Family PCI Fast Ethernet NIC.
10, Creative SB Live! Value (WDM).
11, Hauppauge Win/TV 878/9 VFW Video Driver.
11, Hauppauge Streaming Data Capture Device.
12, Sigma Designs Hollywood Plus MPEG Decoder.
12, 3dfx Voodoo Series.
13, Numeric data processor.
14, Primary IDE Channel.
15, Secondary IDE Channel.

<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: SHS on 2001-08-11 08:57:31 ]</font>

[Sefy]

SHS, I know how to do pure hardware report, but i'm not going to be asking everyone to do it, and some won't do it, so i'm asking for the minimum, as i've got a very good troubleshooting knowledge.

Hi SHS
Also my system locks in overlay mode !
It is asus a7a266 (chipset AliMAgik1)+ wintv pvr + asus 7700 deluxe tv (Geforce2GTS)

it doesn't lock if graphic card is my old matrox millenium g200 !

ps: with matrox system works only with wintv pvr drivers 1.2 !!!

with last pvr drivers (vfw4.2+pvr14a+wintv2k331) my system locks !!!!!

[SHS]

schiame have try this try lowing PCI LEGACY from 32 to 8
Oh there some are WinTV ALi drivers.
http://www.hauppauge.com/html/sw_pvr_pci.htm#beta

<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: SHS on 2001-09-02 15:39:02 ]</font>

[TKSoft2000]

@Sefy
I have the Epox 8KTA3+ and a WinTV Primio. If you want to do a bios update you should save the old one! If I use the current bios and capture in 768x576 I'll get green lines in the frames. I told Epox from this problem and that the older bios works fine. So they said that thy have speeded up the PCI-Bus which will cause problems with old or low-cost cards. I have flashed the old bios again and everything works fine.
Only as information if you'll get problems!

mfg
TKS

[Sefy]

Thanks! i've not had problems with the new BIOS basicly, but my PCI Latency was always on 0, because Live! doesn't work well otherwise