will this come out as great quality for vcd?

[andjayik]

coding in 2Pass VBR with 1750 as bitrate.

[hwoodwar]

Well, it won't produce a VCD, it will produce an XVCD, as the VCD standard has a "fixed" video bitrate if 1150kbits/sec. That being said If the source is good then the XVCD "should" be a lot better quality than the same file encoded to VCD. If you are going to that high a video bitrate you may want to consider CVD or SVCD.

[andjayik]

what do u mean a xvcd? cant i encode using the above method and put on a cd using non compliant cd in nero thus givibg me better picture quality than 1150kps like a normal vcd, since my home dvd cant play mpeg 2?

[hashslingingslasher]

if you make it a non-compliant CD that means its an XVCD.

A VCD is 1150 kbits. (MPEG 1)

an XVCD is 1150 - 2520 kbits i believe (MPEG 1 non standered)

an SVCD is 2520 kbits (MPEG 2)

an XSVCD is 2520 - 3500 kbits (MPEG2 non standered)

[crack_man]

Why can Is still burna xvcd movie in Nero without unchecking the
"Create standard complicant CD" option in Nero?
The file is much more over 700MB but still I can burn it to xvcd and see it in my DVD.

[skynetwork]

i think because nero can burn up to 800mb on a standard 700mb cd-r when burning (x)svcds

[Kingnog]

Get CCE (Cinema Craft Encoder) and DVD2SVCD. In DVD2SVCD, load the VCD template, and for the encoder choose CCE. Then check the little box on the Encoder tab that says "anti noise filter," and set it to 2. This will make the entire process take hours longer, but will make a standard-compliant VCD that looks really, really nice compared to a VCD without the anti noise filter.

[andjayik]

in a non vcd compliant can u make the lines of resolution higher in mpeg 1 rather than the default setting? Caus i want to use a template that will give the best picture quality when making a vcd, like at least 1400-1700 bit rate? Or set something up in the settings feature?

[hwoodwar]

Andjayik:

The "VCD" standard has a number of specifications that must be met, they are:

PAL:
Video:
1150 kbit/sec MPEG-1
352 x 288 pixels
25 frames/second

NTSC:
1150 kbit/sec MPEG-1
352 x 240 pixels
29,97 frames/second
23,976 frames/second NTSC Film


Anytime you change those specifications (higher or lower) you are making an XVCD.

One of the main reason's I mentioned you would be making an XVCD is that just because a standalone DVD player will play VCDs it does not necessarily mean it will play XVCDs. There are a number of players that do not play XVCDs or if they do, they have limitations on how far out of specification you can take a parameter.

The best thing to do is to make a short test, maybe 5 minutes and try it out to see if it plays and how it looks if it does play. Some of the symptoms of not being compatable with XVCDs (aside from not playing at all) can be jerkiness/skipping in the video and blockiness (not the normal fast-action blockiness.) If it plays but shows the above symptoms try gradually lowering the bitrate.

[andjayik]

i tried constant bit rate of 1450 and works no problem on home dvd player, but can i increase the pixel ranges? I do want to make a xvcd

[vitualis]

Well, of course you "can"... You don't need our permission.

As to whether or not it will WORK, that will depend on your player. The best way to know is to test it out yourself.

Regards.

[andjayik]

whats better for sound, dual channel or streo? Does 256 vs 320 make any diff?

[vitualis]

If you are using the normal bitrate of 224 kbit/s, stereo should sound better than "dual channel".

There is probably no particular quality benefit in going any higher than the standard.

Regards.

[andjayik]

what about surround sound, or does that come already in dual channel?

[vitualis]

Surroud audio (as per Dolby Surround) is independent to "stereo" vs. "dual-channel". Stereo and dual channel are different modes of MPEG audio encoding and doesn't have much to do with Dolby Surround at all.

At high/standard bitrates, there is probably no audible difference between stereo and dual-channel with regards to Dolby Surround. Stereo encoding has a theorectical benefit.

At low bitrates, it seems that with some encoders at least, dual channel results in better quality audio. The actual cause of this is not clear.

Regards.

[andjayik]

so how do we get good dolby surround with vcd?

[vitualis]

If you are creating a VCD from a DVD rip, then almost ALL of the common DVD --> VCD conversion methods will downmix AC3 5.1 audio to a Dolby Surround compatible stereo.

Then, just use the standard audio bitrate for a VCD and it will sound great.

Regards.