No encryption on Commercial DVD?

[jcuervo811]

I recently got my DRU500A from Hell, I mean Dell, and so far it is awesome. I put in the movie Halloween and DVD Decrypter says that it doesn't have any type of encryption on it. I am running a simulated test run off Nero with the "Copy DVD" feature to see if by chance this is true. Is it possible that older DVDs didn't come with encryption and would allow to bypass the ripping to hard drive first? Has anyone noticed this before and have had success copying a commercial DVD?

Jcuervo811

[Bullworth]

I don't know why but even some newer DVDs that have come out have no encryption, or maybe it is so weak that it is as if it isn't there at all. I still wouldn't take a chance, I'd just rip to HD and then write to disk. At least that way you're assured that the HD speed data stream will constanly feed your burner and not suffer from any read problems that might occur when copying from drive to drive.

[snowmoon]

Yes, nero will allow you to "copy" a DVD, but without a single sector at the beginning the whole thing will be garbage to all standard DVD players. The sector at the begining of the disk contains the hardware keys necessary for decryption. Without those keys the data is useless to most players. I'm not positive that the brute force software players MIGHT be able to play it back ( not sure ).

[phhoth]

There are quiye a lot movies on DVD that are produces by smaller and/or foreign studios that do not have any encryption. They will generally fit on 1 DVD. This week's new releases have some without any copy protection.

[mikes1964]

I've noticed an awful lot of DVD-9 disks now. It stops the casual user from doing a simple copy with the software their computers or drives came with. Believe it or not 95% of people simply give up at that point. That's better copy protection than VHS ever had. I've also noticed a lack of encryption on a lot of disks.

[Faustus]

I think some of the studios have figured out that the encryption thing is a dead and moot point. There was no way for them to stop DECSS and therefore its not easy to break it. That aside the whoe DVD-9 thing on the other head does stop most people and therefore does indeed become a good deterant.

Far as more DVD9 disk out there these days its a 2 part thing: One the fight to add "value", which is basicly enough crap that people feel like they are getting something for their 20 dollars. And two it helps stop copiers and therefore doesnt hurt.

Of couse its all just rampant speculation so I could be way off...

[SLK001]

Studios are starting to put their anti-copying efforts into creating disks that are virtual mazes, which means that the copier has to work through the disk completely to recover any useful data.

I guess that they are just taking the money that they would need for the CSS license fees and sticking it in their pockets (of course, they are not passing on the savings to their customers).

[FoxGarrison]

I noticed that with the Sopranos Season II. I tried backing up my copy to my HD and it kept searching for the encryption key. What normally would have taken just 5 minutes to rip took a gastly 35 minutes instead!

Quite honestly, the studios would be making more money if encryption is eliminated altogether, but hey, what do I know...right?

Oh yeah, Holloween didn't have encryption.

[jcuervo811]

I was able to do a 1:1 copy of the movie Halloween. Grant it, it is a DVD-5 but it is playable in standalone without any problems whatsoever. :P

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