Help get rid of macrovision

[jinu]

Hi Folks, I have tried every patch available for ATI cards to get rid of macrovision but with no sucess. I even bought a video stabilizer but there I got cheated and am sitting with a box that does not work. (BTW do not buy the video stabilizer from http://www.rfproducts.com.cn/Digital%20Video%20Stabilizer_1.htm. Does not work and absolutely no support exisits)
So now just when I thought that i should try the ADVC-100 which I have read on this forum does provide a workaround for macrovision, I downloaded the manual from the Canopus website and guess what, the manual clearly states that the ADVC-100 does recognize the Macro signal and takes action on it.

So folks any ideas ?? All i want to do is take a backup of my wedding cassette (VHS) to VCD. Unfortunately the guy who did the video shoot macrovisioned the tape so I have to go to him only to get a copy which I have no intention of doing (He is another state).

Cheers
jinu

[miket29]

Use an RF converter instead of the RCA inputs, this should bypass the signal.

[vhelp]

jinu,

Come on man. Do you really thing any company is going to say "oh, if
you want to by-pass MV, just do this" ??

Think a little more clearly on this. No one is going to just flat out tell ya
to "disable MV", and for obvious reasons.

There are many devices that (i like using ther tirm) ignores MV. A good
example is the DC10+ (now called Studio 7 or 8, etc)

-vhelp

[miket29]

This is just from personal experience. I had this problem with a switch I have hooked up to an APEX 1100w, a dreamcast and an XBOX with DVD kit hooked up to a VCR to the TV. All VCDs play but any DVD fades in and out. I went out and bought an RF converter and used that with the RCA inputs and just went in to the coax of the VCR instead. Guess what, no more problems, I can copy everything now no problem. Just merely a suggestion. Some things work for some, soem don't.

[NYPlayer]

The Sima Color Corrector Pro Series gets rid of macrovision.

http://www.simacorp.com/scc.html

[jinu]

Vhelp,
you are absolutely right, nobody will advertise, but the reason for my question was since they explicity metioned it in their manual, have things changed between an older version of ADVC-100 (in which I could bypass MV) and the newer version.

Another reason for my asking was due to some of the posts I read, in which I found that the newer versions of Sima Copymaster no longer remove macrovision, they only stabilize the signal. Apparently Macrovision has forced Sima to comply.

I have also heard the same thing about Studio DC 10 Plus. If it works with Studio 7 I guess there is a way to bypass MV but with Studio 8 (their latest) it is not possible to bypass the same.

Vhelp i guess you are using DC10+, what is the maximum frame size that you can capture at ? Can you capture at 352X576 ?

I am currently using a ATI AIW 128 32MB card. I need to upgrade this to take care of MV or get another device like the RF converter.
Regards
Jinu

[vhelp]

jinu,
I don't know if you are using it to capture from DVD. If you are, then
that is a waist of time - no matter what. But, if you're just messing around
with DVD capture, that's another issue.

Anways, I have the older version of DC10+ that I got about 2 years ago.
I remember when it was a pain in the butt, and I gave up on it for a while..
came back to it, and it's worked better than ever. I don't use it much, but
when I do, I do. I have it in my 2nd pc right now, along side my wtvgo
card as well.

For capturing from VHS tapes, it's about the best you can get, IMO.
My maximum capture resolution w/ this is 640x480 at 6k bits for captures.
I'll assume that the capturing source is VHS. Because VHS is notorious
for MV capturing, especially if using ATI cards, unless you have an older
version, like my ATW card (ati-tv wonder) again, about 2 years old now,
using VFW drivers. These days, everything is MV alert. And, that is why (IMO)
$!$MS$!$ changed their drivers to WDM, and wrapped it up in a DirectX
sales pitch - just another way/form of camoflodging the trueth. Sorry for
the spelling. But, it's the trueth, as I see it. Anytime there is a change
in some form of OS or driver or something, it's a safe be it MV associated
or something else that will KEEP peoples away from doing what they DON'T
want them to do, so's to get that much more monies, bla, bla.
But, you can beleieve what you want above.

-vhelp

[Innershield]

I have an older VCR maybe around 1994. It is a Samsung. It doesn't respond to any Macrovision when it records. ie my dvd player to vcr. I am assuming it would work for the other way around too. vcr to ati. Just a thought, try it with an older vcr.

[ruffruffruff]

jinu--

ADVC-100 does allow you to defeat Macrovision. You just hold down the little square button that switches from digital to analog for 15 to 20 seconds. It causes a brief freeze and color bars. At that point, Macrovision is not active. Stays that way until you turn it off. Works like a total freakin charm. Keeps people that lock up your wedding video from ruining your day. Nice to have

Regards

[roach76]

You could search the net for macrovision free firmware for your card.

[jinu]

Thanks folks for the help. Just one more query has anybody used any one of the following Video Stabilisers wrt removing MV:
1. VIDEO STABILISER (phono) CP2S from Lektropacks (http://www.lektropacks.co.uk/product/technical.asp?dept%5Fid=102&sku=191 )
2. Digital Video Filter (http://home.cfl.rr.com/filter/)
3. MacroMaster Gold from Sonel

Please post a feed back
Regards
Jinu

[DNRC]

You need a Time Base Corrector. These "smooth" the video signal and will remove macrovision, which is a spoiler signal introduced to the video.

These can be got from Maplins etc for around £30 in the UK.