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  1. Sony DRU-500A/Pioneer DVR-A05

    CD-ROM - 32x/32x
    CD-R - 32x/32x
    CD-RW - 31x/32x
    DVD-ROM (single) - 8x/12x
    DVD-ROM (dual) - ?/8x
    DVD-R - 2x/6x
    DVD-RW -2x/6x
    DVD+R - 2.5/?
    DVD+RW - 2.5/?
    Acces time DVD - 200ms/140ms
    Acces time CD - 160ms/130ms

    Pioneer wins this so you might want to take this into consideration when you dont want to buy an extra dvd-player just for reading
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    u have neglected one thing though.


    The Sony Drive can read and write BOTH formats

    the pioneer cannot write DVD+RW/+R and it may not be able to read DVD+RW/+R
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  3. yes i know but thats information already showed on this site.. im just posting extra information
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    for what purpose would one have to write dvd+r instead of -r ?

    there is no advantage or gain ... so i dont get it ... whats the big deal that a burner can do both ...
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  5. Originally Posted by BJ_M
    for what purpose would one have to write dvd+r instead of -r ?

    there is no advantage or gain ... so i dont get it ... whats the big deal that a burner can do both ...
    it really depends on your standalone players. some people may find a certain media works in their standalone players better than other types. alteast the opton is there
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    Originally Posted by tim_theToolman_taylor
    Originally Posted by BJ_M
    for what purpose would one have to write dvd+r instead of -r ?

    there is no advantage or gain ... so i dont get it ... whats the big deal that a burner can do both ...
    it really depends on your standalone players. some people may find a certain media works in their standalone players better than other types. alteast the opton is there
    i suppose -- but i ship out maybe 10 - 20 burned disks a week or more and never had a complant from one burned on a dvd-r ... more than 20 copies of the same thing -- send it out to get dup'd ... blah ....
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  7. I just ordered the Pioneer A05 (from new egg, retail kit for $310 - there were cheaper sellers on pricegrabber, but I trust new egg, ordered tons of stuff from them).

    However, as far as player compability... it really only matters for the player you have.

    And any player worth a damn will do DVD-R - especially if you are big on the SVCDs and VCDs, most any that play these formats will do -R. Again - pioneer wins here too, best set top players out there. My C503D 5 disc pioneer plays everything I've ever tossed at it.

    Plus -R media is cheap.

    -d
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  8. It seems to me that many of the numbers that are claimed for the Sony drive do not correspond to what Sony claims as specs on their unit; for example 8x DVD read is the manufacturers spec. The 10X RW read speed is also incorrect; that is the WRITE speed for this drive.

    In any case, most people who do a significant amount of ripping buy a 16x drive for about $50 to do their ripping on, and save the wear and tear on their expensive burner, so I have to question how important read speeds on a burner are.

    The Sony also offers a pretty big difference on write buffers - 8MB vs. 2 MB for the Pioneer. This should really help reduce coasters, especially burning 4x DVD-R sequential mode (this mode is does not work with Burn-Proofing) when the 4x media become widely available.

    Then of course there is the dual media support..... I won't get into an argument here about the merits of the respective formats other than to say I like the idea of being able to handle both formats as the need arises. This has already helped my out in one case as I found a software package under Linux that only supports +R(W) that I am know using for data backups.
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  9. how you know 10x read speed for cd-rw is incorrect? my source was http://www.sony.nl/view.x?prod=31576&cat=22167&tech&loc=en_NL

    and 350+50 = 400 so reading speed is important for me..
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  10. I Love my AO5 and seeing this I love it even more, to the guy who said get a an extra DVD drive for the reading part most people dont have extra room to add another drive.

    I paid over $100 less for my cendyne(pioneer) AO5 then what I would pay for the Sony, theirs no way in the world that the sony is worth that much money.
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  11. Well for me the difference is only 30$ so i'm still doubting
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  12. From CDRLabs review

    Sony DRU-500a read performance
    CD-ROM: 32x max, 25x avg
    CD-R: 32x max, 24x avg
    CD-RW: 31x max, 24x avg
    DVD-ROM: 8x max, 6x avg
    DVD-video: 2x max, 2x avg
    DVD+R: 2.5x max, 2.5x avg
    DVD+RW: 2.5x max, 2.5x avg
    DVD-R: 2x max, 2x avg
    DVD-RW: 2x max, 2x avg

    The Pioneer is faster at reading DVD±R/RW but is as slow as the Sony on ripping DVD-video (2x) according to CDR-info's review. The read performance of DVD±R on the Sony is supposed to be increased to 4x with the 1.0e firmware.
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  13. or the way i look at it.
    How popular are the dvd-ram these days?

    what if one of these formats become the next dvd-ram.
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  14. +R/RW is headed that way, it's primarily (JUst like DVD-Ram) used as Data storage. Plus (Like DVD Ram) the media is ridiculusly high!
    I have no problem if people want to use +R/RW format. But MORe and more people are buying -r/rw. The drives are cheaper, the media is cheaper, and it's the accepted standard for Dvd recording. -R/RW is spreading at a much faster pace the +R/RW, even the +R/RW developers are incorperating -r compatiblity to sell drives.
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  15. Actually DVD+R/RW increases it's market share and with support from Aopen, Dell, Fujitsu-Siemens, HP-Compaq, Memorex, Microsoft, NEC, Philips, Ricoh, Sanyo, Sony, TDK, Thomson, Verbatim, Yamaha and more I don't think it will disappear.

    Quote from Gordon Yeh, Ritek's CEO:
    Yeh said the DVD-R disc is the mainstream DVD format at present, but DVD+R discs are showing signs of rising to dominance.
    Quote from Andrew Wyllie head of NEC's UK data storage division
    I think it will ultimately be (DVD+R/+RW) that will win, unless (DVD-R/-RW) comes up with significant benefits, so having 4x DVD+R is important to us," said Andrew Wyllie, head of NEC's UK data storage division. "But at the beginning of this year, it looked like DVD-R/-RW would win."
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