I've got a neato labeler and just got a dvd burner. I've burned a few dvds so far. I'd like to label them. Anyone had experience with labeling being BAD for dvd's? The dvd's I'm using are unbranded TDK's. I labeled one to see how it would do and it plays back fine. Will the label have any long term affects on the dvd?
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i have used the teh neatos labels on some dvds and i haven't had any problems
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I too have used the Neato labels on at least 30 different dvd's and no problems yet. All seem to play just fine and they look great . I use the MediaFace program to put captured pics from the video onto the labels that way you can see what home vid is on the disc or what movie I have on them. I guess a DVD printer would be cool but I think the cost of one compared to the labels is preventing me from having one right now.
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No DVD manufacturer recommends labels:
1. imbalance of DVD/CD
2. peeling may get your DVD/CD stuck inside the drive.
3. Label migration due to g-forces generated will cause imbalance and premature wear of the drive.
4. Heat/cold or temperature changes in the room/car may cause early detereoration of the adhesive
has any of these problems stop anybody from using labels?.... yes, professional people that archive DVD/CD for a long time, otherwise no.
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well i think you would have a bettter chance of winning the lottery then to have problems with you dvd/cd. i have been labeling for a real long time now and i haven't had any problems.
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Originally Posted by ghoster
Admittedly, the CD's in the car did get rather warm! -
I labelled all of my DVDs so they looked just peachy.
Then I got a Compaq laptop and it wouldn't play a single one of them for more than 3 minutes.
I've removed all of the labels (that REALLY sucked) and now they look boring but work GREAT, even on my laptop.
Never never never label DVDs. You'll regret it later.---
MovieMan
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There are quite a few problems with label like videomann stated.
This is true for both CD and DVD.
The general rule is used the labeled Disc in door. They run into all
kind of problem in your car and minivan ( and kids ). -
Well depends, I never label my CD's I use in the car, live inArizonz, get way to hot in the trunks of vehicles here.
But I have labeled over 100 DVD's from 3 different manufactures not one has come off or gone belly up, I have labeled over 500 VCD's and SVCD's with a problem either, but I use the very very thin glossy label made by merritime I get at Fry's electronics, I could see a problem with some of those thicker ones.
Now my friend uses a DVD Burner over my DVD Home recorder and he can't use a label at all, won't on any of his DVD players if he does, but those same DVD-R's with labels play fine on my Daewoos, Panasonics, sampo's and any APEX's.
I don't understand, people spend all this time on a cool menu on your DVD-R, then use a cheap black marker to write on it, when I get done with the DVD-R and DVD case its very hard to tell the difference from the original, have actually fooled some people thinking a copy looked just liked the original, was very shocked to find out that it was a copy even when played. -
I used to put the sticky labels on every disc I burned, Ive seen a few label wrinkle & ink run when they get wet, these days I just use a fine permanent marker to get the point across.
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Originally Posted by Rogue3
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that new "disk tattoo" drive that yamaha has looks pretty slick.. laser prints on to the top of the disc.
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that new "disk tattoo" drive that yamaha has looks pretty slick.. laser prints on to the top of the disc.
Personally, I've heard some bad reports about using labels on DVD-r's...especially the ones designed for CD's. Have you ever noticed how warm a DVD is after playing it for a couple of hoursIt tends to loosen the glue on the label and it peels off...
Nothing wrong with using a thermal or inkjet CD printer though...a lot of "plain" DVD-r's are designed to work with such contraptions.. 8) -
Rogue3,
Great topic!
We label every CD-R we make. Not only does it make the disc look professional the label is actually protecting the "business" end of the CD.
Not labeling or otherwise protecting the top of a CD-R is a mistake. It is the bottom/underneath side of the TOP of the CD-R were the burning takes place.
If you take an exacto knife to the TOP of a CD-R you'll see that the top surface can be scraped or peeled off very easily. The misconception is that the bottom of the CD-R is what is burned. That is NOT what happens, that's just plastic. The laser burns the underneath side of the TOP surface.
I too use the Fellowes Neato Labeler. It works great and have not had any problems with discs playing except for the time I labeled the bottom by mistake. We're still laughing about that one!!!Evil flourishes when good men do nothing. -
sorry....clarification.....
By "top" I mean the side of the CD that you can write on, or where the printed stuff is....or where you CAN stick a label....ie, if viewed while in a jewel case.....
If you view the written side of the disk....where you can see the disk t@too stuff....I refer to that as the bottom of the disk
I realise that the written side is actually the top of the disk (not sure how many people do)...but you can't see what has been written until you view the bottom...hence the misconception... -
I had some problems with lables when I tried to feed some media into the DVD player in my car. It just made the media to thick to go the loader.
I then switched from putting labels on, to printing directly to the media. I have the EZCD PRINTER and it work great for the home user to professional. It cost me under $470.00 USD and it cover everything I needed. Check it out http://www.atdiscount.com/community/cdr/index/3/196/1177/product/20566/sku
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The t@2 (tatoo) will only work on the un-used part of the data side.
But as most of us here use a dics to 99% capacity,
this technology have no good use for us.
http://www.yamahamultimedia.com/yec/tech/discta2_01.asp#
About the Casio Thermal CD label printer:
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I've never had any problems with labels, but I only use them for kids stuff because they like them. Of course they abuse and use discs more than I ever would so no failures there is reasonable testimony to their durability. For anything remotely like archive stuff I just use a CD marker. A special marker for writing on CDs. Not sure how accurate it is but Sharpies and magic markers are supposed to have solvents that can leach through the plastic and cause problems with the dyes. I've never had a problem when I've grabbed a sharpie in desperation (more times than I'll admit here) but I figure why chance it.
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DVD R - a question on the EZCD printer you got.... How's the printing look on the CD/DVD? Would say a face look pretty good? Also, does the ink stay on well after drying (if printing on a 'printable cd/dvd?)? Do you have to use the bundled software to create the labels and print with or can you use other software (I have Surething software I have used to print regulare paper labels from). I'm thinking of buying one of these printers - if the quality of the printing is good. Does it seem to use up a lot of ink? Let me know what you think.
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Neato glossy labels have NO EFFECT on my DVD-Rs--several brands on several players. They play the same with or without.
These labels have only been applied for a few months, so time may tell the truth, but for now they work fine and look very nice. I figure if I start seeing separation or peeling, it is easy enough to copy the disc to a new one in a few years. -
http://www.tdk-europe.com/label_printer/uk/
This is now available in Europe - anyone try it yet ? Pictures on the website doesn't show exactly which area of the disc is printable. -
I've had problems with my DVD-R disks after applying a label (CD-Stomper). I'm using the Sony DRU500A with the Accu disks from Meritline. They work perfectly after I burn them. However, if I add a label they skip and stall and are rendered virtually useless. I don't know what is causing the problem. It could be the label is interfering with the read procedure or it could be causing mechanical imbalance which would lead to the skipping.
This may or may not happen with name brand media. I've been told that the better named brand media have an extra protective layer that may allow for labeling.
In any case, my advice is NOT to label ACCU DVD-R disks.
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I have labeled over 100 DVD movies with no issues at all. I usually go to Amazon and get a pic of the movie video and then modify size to print on label template. Usually a full picture in on the label, and all have played without issue.
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flanman you do the same thing as i use to do intill i came across http://www.cdcovers.cc/ i highly advise you to check it out it has just about every dvd made on there.
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Like every one else been looking for a way to label a cd. The paper/glossy stuff still bother me a bit esp at the speed these disk run at.
Also look at inkjet but requires a special coated disk and the rebuilt printer avaiable are too pricy just to do a label.
Been looking at the Casio/TDK printer. Intersting but heat and possible avaiablity of "thermal cassetts" could be a problem. The output look good and gon through both Japanes and englis reviews. Not bad.
Was wondering if any one has tried dry rub-on lettering? Picked up some at Staples today for 4 dollars for a few sheets. Planing on some test. Should be as stable as the thermal printing but minus the heat. Not sure if it will fly off but worth a try. Know like the CW-50 that can be scratched if careless.
PS: Wonder if the Yamaha tatoo system would work if they made dual sided CD/DVD blanks?
PSS: Desided to do a test instead of programing tonight and it passed so far! Ran it in a 32x reader with no loss of parts!Since I have not used this tech in 25 years had a bit of a problem but seams to be ok! Need to see if heat will affect it next.
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I have never had a problem labelling CDR's but I have had problems labelling DVD-R's. The DVD-R's I have tried are, zero defex and intenso. These problems may not occure on more expensive higher quality discs (don't know have not tried), but the tests I have done definately prove that the labels have an effect on playback of these discs.
See this thread
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There has to be a better way to label that does not cost a forturn, messy etc. I dont like the paper lables due to being stuck on but they adds weight to a disk. The inkjet system makes sense but charging me almost 400 for a modified epson printer is nuts!
The first test of the rub-on look good. Need to run them in a DVD player that get really hot. A bit pricey at $3.20 for a single sheet from Staples but you get a lot of letters and it has the feel of silkscreen on like a mfg disk. Took some tries on rubbing them on but not hard.
It could be on those disk that they dont make the layers so thick. Esp the last laquer layer before there silkscreening. -
Do you mean to tell me or us that you are going to label your CDR's with that rub on Text that comes on a sheet. Do you know how hard and how long it would take you to do a run of 50 Disc.
I check around the industry before I bought the EZCD Printer and found out that it has better DPI than the Primera printers on the market that cost over $1100.00 USD. I thought $359.00 was a lot just like you do but if you check out a sample of what these printers can do. You will make up your mind as fast as I did.
Call Mike for a sample at http://www.atdiscount.com/community/cdr/index/3/196/1177/product/20468/sku
He had a sample sent out to me with in a week.
I suggest everyone check this printer out it will blow your mind.
DVD ER
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