Frameserving and subtitles the hard way??

[jonny_chief]

Dont ask me why but i would like to know if the following is possible:
1) Create D2V with DVD2AVI
2) Load into TMPGEnc and resize
3)Load into VFAPI to make dummy AVI
4) Load this dummy into VDub so i can apply the Subtitling filter
then 5) Framserve this into CCE

i know it sound stime consuming but is it possible at all?? Has nayone tried and will it make encoding take longer?? I am running p3 1GHZ with 384MB Ram

The reason being , my standalone will not play SVCD or CVD subs, and NO i do not want to use DVD2SVCD because it sucks !! I just want a way to be able to add permanent subtitles into my SVCD stream, i am going to beusing CCE to encode but could also use TMPGEnc
if anybody knows a simpler way to do so it would be appreciated.
Also, is there a way, once you have the subtitle BMP's and script file, to edit these to cut out the ones you do not require. Example, movie like BLack Hawk Down, need subtitle when Somali's talk however do not want entire English subtitle through the whole movie (which is the only track for this) and because cannot play Switchable subs want to add permanent subs but only to those points in the movie where i need them to be displayed and if thiking of suggesting it NO i do not want to use DVDx either.

any help, thanks

[shimrod]

Yes! You can do this. And No it will not take longer encoding times.

1. Create D2V with DVD2AVI
2. Convert D2V with VFAPICONV
3. Load in Virtualbud, resize, add subtitles and start frameserving.
4. Load into CCE.

For complete subtitles use VOBSUB in virtualdub. Great tool!
Perhaps there is a way to delete some subtitles from the workfiles (in the workfolder you have to specify).

[Poplar]

Or you can

1. Create D2V with DVD2AVI
2. Get your subtitle with VobSub through VDub, if needed.
3. Frame serve through Avisynth with filters you need to CCE.

I believe this is the fastest path, if it matters to you.

[ya_jai]

Or you can
1 rip with smartripper (file mode)
2. frameserve from Flaskmpg use Avisynth
3. Encode with TMPGEnc

This is a guide in case you missed it
http://www.vcdhelp.com/dvdtovcdflask.htm

[duhmez]

Resizing and filtering in vdub is easiest method because of the gui, but takes longer than avisynth . If yo dont mind letting it go overnight I'd do that, and frameserv into cce from vdub.

[shimrod]

Frameserving from Virtualdub is NOT slower than frameserving from Avisynth.

Speed is relative. It all depends on the settings you choose.
Example: There are 4 different settings to resize a movie in Virtualdub (bicubic, bilinear, precise bicubic, precise bilinear). They all have a huge reflection on speed and quality. Choosing wise gives you an even higher speed thant AviSynth.

I prefer Virtualdub because it gives me a nice user interface with lots of extra plugin Filters. I can get a preview where I can see what the result of my settings will be.

For some tasks (like deinterlacing) it is handy to use them both.
But I never really understood why people like AviSynth so much.

[Truman]

Shimrod, you are right, VirtualDub is not slower than Avisynth. Of course it depends on the filter settings. Many people use to say that, because they just frameserve and resize. If the source is YUY2 or YV12 and you use similar filters and similar settings (e.g. only bibinearResize) and convert to MPEG, Avisynth is in fact faster, because there is no YUV to RGB conversion.

But I never really understood why people like AviSynth so much.

I think, it is a more flexible editor and easier to use.