Numerical Chapter Points... on CD?

[homerpez]

I know this is SLIGHTLY off-topic, but... it does have to do with burning a CD, Chapter Points, and even an SVCD is involved along the way. So, here goes.

I have an SVCD I made of concert footage, it's approximately 70 minutes or so. When it occurred to me, I wouldn't mind putting the audio on a regular CD (to play in the car).

My problem now, is that every burning program I know of will insert a tiny millisecond of silence between tracks (even when the tracks are completely flush in a WAV editor, even when I burn "Disk-At-Once")...

So, is there some program for making AUDIO CD's perfectly? Perhaps by being able to create "numerical" chapter points ala VCDEasy? (One track of audio, but I'd be able to specify where the "skip" tracks to)?

Thanks in advance...

[kinneera]

Well...normally disc-at-once is the mode you want to use to avoid pauses between tracks. Do you have any commercially produced CDs of a live performance? Do they have the same pause? Because it sounds to me like the CD-player is probably the real source of the problem, not the actual data on the disc. In any case, I think a redbook audio CD written in DAO mode with no pregap is equivalent to a single data stream with entry points.

Also, some info on the redbook specification:
http://www.yangkun.com/CDR/redbook.shtml

[vitualis]

Are you using separate WAV files for each track (even if they are "seamless")?

If you do so, you will probably get a tiny gap between each track as I think it will pad each audio track to fill the last sector before the next one (this is somewhat for memory and might be speculative).

What you can do is for your "seamless" tracks is to use ONE .WAV file. You can then go to Tucows or some other software repository to find a CUESheet editor.

Regards.

[nailbmb]

What you can do is for your "seamless" tracks is to use ONE .WAV file. You can then go to Tucows or some other software repository to find a CUESheet editor.

or you can just write your own cue sheet using notepad and burn it w/ CDRWin (great prog in my opinion).
I've done the exact same thing that you are attempting with CDRWin except that i had one big wav instead of several. I think vitualis is right in that the burning prog will fill the remaining empty frames at the end of a track before beginig the next one. I gues you could ensure that all of your tracks are integer multiples of 75, but that's just silly!

[homerpez]

I guess that is what I'm looking for... I'd want to have one WAV file, then edit a cuesheeet... is there any "easy" way to do this (for someone who's never done this before)? Like a GUI proggy?

That has been my problem in the past, since I would have to split seamless audio into separate WAV's in order to make tracks from it (like NERO, etc) and then I get the small gaps...

Cuesheet seems the answer, I'll start looking into it...

[homerpez]

I mean a program that will keep me from screwing up timecode format, etc. and do it the "right way"... I know you can also use "notepad"

[vitualis]

Again go to Tucows...

I've got a program called "CDRCue" that I've downloaded from there that is a cuesheet editor.

Regards.