Blocky video with TMPGEnc no matter what settings

[vicvideo]

It seems that even when I set the intra-block and non-intrablock settings high (like 100/100 or 80/80) in TMPGEnc it will not get rid of some blockiness that happens in a few scenes. I'm using the latest version of this. Anyone got a solution?

Scenes are lowlight.

[Marxs]

I think your getting the same problem i am.. Is the Mpeg all good but when you burn it some scense are blocky? Cause thats what happens with me and the sound screws up even after 1x burning. No idea how to fix the bugger i think its my DVD player

[Vejita-sama]

First, what's the video source? A DivX or poor quaility source will always have 'some problems.' Are you encoding VCD or SVCD, either way what's the bitrate. Genrally speaking the higher the bitrate the less blocks. Also whats the resolution, higher resolution will help with the blocks, but if they bit rate is to low the 'overall quaility' won't improve to much.
Try uping the bitrate, encoding with SVCD, using 2pass VBR.

[vicvideo]

Too add to my post:

I'm burning a VCD from an AVI file I encoded with MiroDC30plus, not a DVD. I've separated an hour into 18 mpgs, and there are only about two or three scenes that I want to get rid of the noticeable blockiness. Everything else looks pretty good actually.

One scene I know is a challenge, it is a slow zoom into a dump truck dumping dirt (so the blockiness appears where the whole screen is in movement of dirt). The other, is a low-light scene.

[Y3K]

Something to add to this thread. After about 2 weeks of testing and countless hours of sleepless, I found that creating SVCDs from capturing will be block unless you are encoding at around 4500 at least to see a significant improvement. I have created Svcds from 1000-5000kb/s. I found that the higher the resolution, the higher the bitrate you need. If you have a high resolution video, but the bitrate is low, for example: if you encode a 640x480 or 480x480 with the same bitrate as 352x240, the quality of 352x240 is far more better. I've made SVCDs from the past from DVDs, and the quality was acceptable, but for some reason, capturing is different. I found that if you encode at 352x240 even at a low bitrate, you won't be that much blocks onscreen. However, you'll see the fuzzy lines around objects. So to avoid this, encode at higher bitrate. I've encoded a 480x480 with 3000kb/s and 352x240 at 1150, you'll see less blockiness, but you'll see the fuzzy stuff around objects and the overall picture seems to be a little blurry. I find that encoding at 352x240 is better than 480x480 because less blocky. This is using MPEG2 compression.

[Y3K]

Something to add to this thread. After about 2 weeks of testing and countless hours of sleepless nights, I found that creating SVCDs from capturing will be block unless you are encoding at around 4500 at least to see a significant improvement. I have created Svcds from 1000-5000kb/s. I found that the higher the resolution, the higher the bitrate you need. If you have a high resolution video, but the bitrate is low, for example: if you encode a 640x480 or 480x480 with the same bitrate as 352x240, the quality of 352x240 is far more better. I've made SVCDs from the past from DVDs, and the quality was acceptable, but for some reason, capturing is different. I found that if you encode at 352x240 even at a low bitrate, you won't be that much blocks onscreen. However, you'll see the fuzzy lines around objects. So to avoid this, encode at higher bitrate. I've encoded a 480x480 with 3000kb/s and 352x240 at 1150, you'll see less blockiness, but you'll see the fuzzy stuff around objects and the overall picture seems to be a little blurry. I find that encoding at 352x240 is better than 480x480 because less blocky. This is using MPEG2 compression.

[Martí]

Hi,
I enconded yesterday a short shooted in DV Letterbox and it looks very close to the original.

I used Cinema Craft Encoder (plug-in for Premiere), CBR of 2400, 480*576 (I'm a PAL user) and allowed the encoder to concentrate on the complex parts of the scene, so it fits on the image and forgets the letterboxed fraction of the screen.

Pretty decent quality. Absolutely no Blockiness. Give it a try.

Good Luck!

Martí

[AntnyMD]

Your playback device also has a lot to do with how your video CD will look. In one of my DVD players, VCDs really do approach VHS quality, especially in terms of clarity of images in lower motion scenes, and in faithful reproduction of skin tones.

In another DVD player, everything looks blocky and very "I downloaded it off the internet" crappy. Same video, different players. Your player can sometimes make a world of difference.

[Y3K]

I agree that every players have different playback quality. I have 2 players and the vcd quality on my sony seems to be better than the apex. Though, at low motion scenes, they are comparable and the quality is pretty good on both. It's just that I don't get why it's very blocky when I encode SVCDs with TMPENC, even at a bitrate of 4000. Any guesses why?