pcm is too big?

[theskid]

how do you stop virtua dub ripping the audio from divx and converting to pcm quality i hear it is better to convert to normal how do you prevent this happening in virtual dub
thanx
sorry i stripped without choosing the full proccessing mode
i used direct stream copy the file was a lot smaller

but i hear dvdit converts back to pcm is the a way to stop this from happening cause if so i can have a better bitrate
thanks

[theskid]

i've entered 3 posts and had no replies yet is there anybody who can help us

[KingJohn]

i've entered 3 posts and had no replies yet is there anybody who can help us

Then you should explain more about what you are doing, and why.

Stripping the audio is usually done for use later with TMPGEnc, this then makes a VCD .mpg

Layer-2 44100Hz 224kbps (VCD)

So you would normally make the WAV uncompressed at 44.1Khz,ready for TMPGEnc

Another way

Audio > full processing mode
Audio > Conversion > 44.1Khz
SAVE WAV

[theskid]

sorry i missed that part out im putting on dvdr as mpeg2 does dvd players play any other audio apart from pcm

[KingJohn]

Ah... then it would be 48 kHz , but you can also have multi-channel audio (such as 5.1 Dolby Surround.

[theskid]

sorry m8 i know it has to be 48khz its just that pcm is very big is there any other format compatable with dvd and how do i stop tmpgenc from changing it in a dvd project to 384kbs

[crusty]

Ac3 is a dvd standard but TMPG wont handle it you could always try mpeg 1 audio as that works in my system.

[Joe018]

Hey crusty,

caught your post in a search to my problem. Are you sure TMPG wont handle ac3 files? for the longest time i was using ac3 demuxed with dvd2avi in tmpeg. recently for some reason they wont work. just locks up tmpeg. im trying to find out what i could have done codec wise or other that would cause tmpeg not to be able to handle them ac3 anymore.

ac3 was never in the file mask as a source for the audio but by hitting all files and selecting the ac3 file it always worked for me. at least it used to.
it was very convenient. im trying to find out what i could have done.

-J

[KingJohn]

For a long time TMPGEnc will encode AVI's with AC3, but depending on what codec's you have and what version of TMPGEnc you have installed.

My system has been running for over a year without any changes, both Vdub and TMPGEnc encode AC3 without any problems.

[banjazzer]

But remember, Glasshopper, KingJohn can walk on water... 8)

[Joe018]

hmm, you know now that you mention it i think i did load some mjpeg codecs and this other thing called stream switcher and i guess its possible that it hasnt worked since. crap i hope i dont have to reload xp. Dont know exactly why that would keep tmpeg from being able to do what it was doing. i'd think only by removing some kind of ac3 codec from the system it would have a problem.

I havent changed versions of tmpeg either. hmm

[KingJohn]

Well if you read about the forum, you will find several people telling you that TMPGEnc will handle AC3 without problems, and they don't have any problems with AC3 audio in Vdub. Although its easy to post links direct to things like Vdub AC3 its not always possible to post links to hacked versions of the latest software.

There are idiots in this forum, who because it never works for them, will shrug it off and not possible, then one day the penny drops and they look so foolish.

[KingJohn]

But remember, Glasshopper, KingJohn can walk on water... 8)

Kids will play, why not take up another hobby like train sets ?

[banjazzer]

No need to take a huff because you were shown to be wrong. 8) Are you an expert on train sets, too?

[banjazzer]

There are idiots in this forum, who because it never works for them, will shrug it off and not possible, then one day the penny drops and they look so foolish.

You mean like those who scoff at Nandub being able to cut an avi in MB? 8)

BTW for most people TMPG does not appear to handle ac3, which is not to say for all people. Which is, by the way, why we have guides to extracting ac3 audio as a wav before converting to (S)VCD. You, obviously, are a special case - but then we already knew that.

[Joe018]

welp it did indeed work for me. and if anyones curious to know my specs

i've got an a7a266 asus mboard with
athlon tbird 1200
256megs of mushkin high perf ddr
asus gforce 2
running xp

tmpegplus 2.53

prior to messing around with the mjpeg codecs and that stream switcher i think all i had loaded was the latest nimo

-J

[KingJohn]

welp it did indeed work for me. and if anyones curious to know my specs

i've got an a7a266 asus mboard with
athlon tbird 1200
256megs of mushkin high perf ddr
asus gforce 2
running xp

tmpegplus 2.53

prior to messing around with the mjpeg codecs and that stream switcher i think all i had loaded was the latest nimo

-J

Don't say that you will upset him because it never works for him it never works for anyone

[banjazzer]

Oh dear! I don't think I ever said it never works for anyone, did I? I believe I said most, but I was probably wrong to quantify it, since neither of us know the actual figures.

However, since you wish to continue this, perhaps you can advise? TMPG is not recommended for resampling wav files from 48kHz to 44.1kHz. Is TMPG better at resampling AC3?

And now for something completely different. This seems to have got a wee bit personal and acrimonious. I do actually value what you say. What say we make up and be friendly? 8)

[banjazzer]

I'll take that as a "NO", then.

[KingJohn]

Part 1, you still want to argue
Part 2, seams to suggest I should respond with an explanation... I wont
Part 3, I forget arguments a few seconds after a post, and will only reply if it continues.

[banjazzer]

Part 1, you still want to argue

I was just continuing what we have both been doing recently. I would actually prefer not to argue.

Part 2, seams to suggest I should respond with an explanation... I wont

That's a shame, because it was partly a dig, and partly serious. I accept you can load AC3 into TMPG. I was querying whether, if it's not a good idea to let TMPG resample wavs, is it a good idea to let TMPG resample AC3.

Part 3, I forget arguments a few seconds after a post, and will only reply if it continues.

Well, I was suggesting a truce, since we both have something to offer, and I think we would be better off giving advice than sniping at each other.

And I would also like you to try Nandub, because I think you would find it useful. I use Virtualdub exclusively for encoding DivX, but I prefer Nandub for cutting DivX, or interleaving with audio.

[Joe018]

just an update on my end:

unloaded all the morgan stream splitter and jpeg codecs. still cant get the ac3 back. however. i did discover that the simple demultiplex tool in tmpeg allows to take a vob and export ac3 audio

It has me curious. so i ripped an xfiles season one disc. used ifoedit vob extras to make one large vob of all the episodes. i then used tmpeg and came up with an 257 meg ac3 file. and am currently frame serving the large xfile vob to tmpeg via dvd2avi. system vid only.

dunno whats gonna happen with the audio sync but im going to pop it into dvdit pe later with the ac3 file and see what happens. would be sweet if it works.

[Joe018]

worked out fine. pretty cool at half d1 came in with the ac3 audio at 3.5 gig. 180 minutes. cbr 3000 min 2500

[KingJohn]

worked out fine. pretty cool at half d1 came in with the ac3 audio at 3.5 gig. 180 minutes. cbr 3000 min 2500

Glad you got it to work

Was going to say... maybe you should use TRY Nandub and split it into 10 equal Mb files, then save the audio out in each file, frameserve to TMPGEnc and..... then use as a frisby after you made the disk

[banjazzer]

Why take the excitement out of life? Better to cut first and find out the size afterward.

[Joe018]

dunno it's fine for me. as long as i can get 4 seperate chapters for each episode when i author im fine. i dont need menu's and such. does anyone n know if reel dvd will take the ac3 file? i know it encodes to ac3 but doese it accept the ac3 like dvd it? might consider a menu if i can do motion etc.

[KingJohn]

I would say that all DVD authoring programs could