Editing in Ulead Video Studio 6

[dan1st]

Hi, pls forgive newbie.

Using Ulead VS6, is it possible to trim 'several' videos and add them to the storyboard? I wanna do this coz I wish to get rid of commercials from TV programmes and have them backed up on VCD.

I only managed to trim 1 part of the movie and add it to the board, but couldnt add another. Is that possible? Or do I have to generate the trimmed videos to mpeg files and then only add them back later?

ps: Ermm, in the storyboard...it says 'Drag and Drop Video Clip Here'. How do i do that?

Many thanks in advance.

[Riccardom]

You can either add twice (or more) the same clip to the storyboard, each time with different trim,
or insert the clip only once, then split it in many parts and throw away the unwanted ones.
I don't remember if the command is split or cut or something else but the concept is to place the cursor on the timeline and divide the clip in two.
So repeating this before and after commercials, you can then select and delete them.

[dan1st]

Wait a min, why didnt I think of that...?!?!?
Works about the same way as Windows Movie Maker, whahaha...
How s2pid of me *slap*

Thx, Riccardom.

[dan1st]

Wait again...
I can't cut/split the clips.
Placed the cursor on the timeline, but can't divide them...
How??

Right click, whateva...where?

[Riccardom]

I don't have the program installed, but if i'm not wrong there is a little button with scissors in the black part, the one with controls that differ from one section to another.
I hope my memory still works.
Riccardom

[dan1st]

Ok, I don't see any scissors buttons anywhere.
But I do see a 'Split Video' button. However, the button cannot be clicked

Also, what about the 'Drag and Drop' thingy?

Anyone using Ulead VS6 can offer help?

Any kind of help is greatly appreciated...

[dezine]

I have VS6.0 as well as MSP 6.5. You can't edit MPEG in Video Studio 6. The program is a basic video editing program, so you can insert clips and add transitions and audio, but if you want to splice (cut) video you will be limited. To edit MPEG or splice digital media you would basically have to step up to Media Studio Pro 6.5.

Sorry,
Dezine (Michael)

[dan1st]

Sorry? No need for that, thx for the help~!
But getting another software...

So is it really impossible to do with VS6?
What about those scissors button, split video button, drag and drop, etc...?
And limited, how?

[xerces3379]

dan, I have done exactly what you are trying to do with the Ulead Video Studio 6 demo version. I am away from my home computer right now, and my demo has run out anyway, so I can't be specific about details. I used the Video Blaster Digital VCR to capture and output to MPEG-2 files and then I cut out the commercials using VS 6. (I cut them out using the method of cutting clips and then deleting the commercial clips).

Since I can't be specific, I'll just leave it at this and hopefully post more details later when I get home. Just want to let you know that it can be done with VS6.

[ratt794]

Yes you can do it with VS6:

Insert the video file in the storyboard
Then use the "F3" for Mark in and "F4" for mark out to edit each section's start and end point.

A word of caution about VS6 - the MPEG.now codec it uses has some serious bugs and quality issues. I have told Ulead back in February and they still do not have a patch for them.
The Bugs are as follows:
1) Smart Rendering "MPEG-2" projects produces invalid MPEG files the Nero / VCDimageeasy will reject and they can NOT be used for XSVCD discs.
2) Variable Bitrate Mode has pulsing artifacts with some scenes and is annoying - do NOT use VBR with MPEG-2
3) Quality of DV to MPEG is not that good and MPEG-MPEG is even worse.
There is a big problem with the codec's quantinization scales as I tested an I-Frame only capture file with 480x480 resolution and 8000K bitrate - after rendering the file was very blocky - this should NEVER happen at this high bitrate / resolution combination. Other codecs handle this very well - NOT VS6.
4) Using MPEG-1 for projects causes rendered areas to screw up on my APEX 5131 player (Which Normally plays everything). Blocks and massive artifacts during transition effects with MPEG-1.

As a DV in DV out editor VS6 is fine but stay away from its MPEG codec.

A better alternative would be to use TMPGenc to Cut the original file into several skipping over the commercials - it will be a lossless edit and will NOT re-Render the MPEG file.
The operation is very fast also. Use the "Merge and Cut" option to do this.

Regards,

[Spicuzza]

dan1st, the information I posted comes right from Ulead's VideoStudio 6 help file. You simply make a cut at the begining and end of each commercial, then drag them to the trash can.

Split Video

Cuts a video clip in two. With a video clip selected, move the Preview Bar under the Preview Window to select the point where you want to cut the clip.

I'm not going to take the time to counter some of the statements made by a couple of posters here except to say one is totally wrong and the other doesn't know what he is taking about, his process is flawed, not the program.

[dan1st]

...
Somehow, I cannot stop thinking I'm getting confused...
Anyhow, thanx to all who helped post what they knew. Don't really wanna see any arguments start here.

Looks like I'll have to figure out VS6.0 myself, or get another software~!
And really man, using TMPGEnc to cut off commercials gives me bad MPEGs.

ps: I will still appreciate any help comin this way...thx!

[Mirror_Image]

Just give the instructions that Spicuzza posted a try and in no time you'll be dumping commercials left and right. I use UVS6 to chop out commercials all the time, and he got it exactly right. When I start out with a new audio or video editor, I just make a junk file and experiment on it till I get the hang of it.

As far as arguments go, I generally avoid them, at least 99% of the time. It is akin to teaching a pig to sing - it not only wastes your time, but it also seems to annoy the pig.

[alk]

Ulead VS 6 its faster than TMPGEnc making MPEG-1 files but
the quality its worse.
i suggest insert the efects with UVS but encode with TMPGEnc.

UVS have not sissors you can make severals files with each section
ut its hardest.
and more space it's needed..

[oldfart13]

Could I get a clarification on editing with VS6? I'm using it right now. Can you select multiple points and edit them out then save as movie? For instance, we know that most TV shows have 15 minutes of commercials per hour, so how do I cut them all out in one go as I don't see any scissors nor will the trash icon work except to trash the entire clip. I notice the help file seems to mention DV AVI a lot but not standard analogue capture, which is what I use.

[dan1st]

Not sure if this is what you want, but...I just do like what some of the above ppl said.

Get your video in VS6.0, move the 'Preview Bar' to the start of commercial, then click on 'Split Video'. Split all you want, and then delete~!

ps: Thx to all you above,

[oldfart13]

I'll try to use a picture:


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I want to keep segments 2 and 4 but delete 1 and 3. I want to save the file without rerendering using the same stream characteristics as the original file. I want it to be in sync. VS5 had an actual "cut" using a scissors icon, then save file. This has been changed in VS6 to these stupid icons. There is no longer a "delete clip" icon. Attempting to drag the portion you don't want to the trash can deletes the entire clip, not the selected segment. Sometimes you wonder why these guys are going to university to create software that has a steep learning curve and will not be utilized by John Q. Public since it's too hard to figure out.

[oldfart13]

From Dan1:

"Not sure if this is what you want, but...I just do like what some of the above ppl said.

Get your video in VS6.0, move the 'Preview Bar' to the start of commercial, then click on 'Split Video'. Split all you want, and then delete~! "

Okay, I have the video in both the preview window and the video track which shows the individual frames. I moved the preview bar (not the trim handles) to the start of the show, eliminating about 30 seconds of unwanted video at the beginning of the show and the split video icon comes on. pressing that gives me the beginning of the clip highlighted with what I want to cut out. Now what? Do I use the trim tool to edit out the commercials? I can highlight them but when I go to delete them, it trashes the entire clip, not the selected portion. Getting VERY confused now...

[oldfart13]

Okay, I tried to use one of the old guides that I had for VS5 and was able to save 5 segments and then join them in the "make video" and "make SVCD" options in the finish step. However, Nero and VCDEasy both state that they are not compatable files. VCDEasy actually tells me that it is not an Mpeg! So, I tried to make the files complaint under VS6 using their NTSC SVCD template. This time, it was recognized but the audio and video are out of sync. I think I can correct this in TMPGEnc using the Merge/Cut tools and under advanced settings there is an audio delay adjustment. The thing is, how do I tell how much to add/subtract in that step?

(20 min later):

Once again, I tried to save the separate clips in VS6 only to have Nero and VCDEasy say they are invalid. VCDEasy says it is not a multiplexed stream and therefore invalid, yet when I play the file in VS6 it plays perfectly with edits and in sync. Nero says that it is invalid as it is stream encoded which is invalid for an SVCD. Now what do I do???

[oldfart13]

Well, after 10 hours of work, I have got what I wanted and it was an uphill battle. I got the clips together in VS6. Saved as a non standard Mpeg-2 and converted in TMPGEnc to the correct SVCD spec after editing the audio (which was out of sync) using the guides here and Goldwave (if anyone has a similar guide using SoundForge or CoolEdit, I'm all ears). Now I want to fit the final output onto a single CDR. That is, 44 minutes Mpeg-2 SVCD spec. The original cap of 2.6 MB/s was too high to do this so I must reencode at a lower bitrate. Can anyone help? Also, is there any way TMPGEnc or another program can give me the exact time of a video down to thousandths of a second? I was not impressed with TMPGEnc since it rounds to the last second. I had to have Goldwave shave 0.095 seconds from the audio to get perfect lip sync. This was done trial and error since I couldn't get the correct offset in TMPGEnc...

[crajshree]

Ulead VS 6 its faster than TMPGEnc making MPEG-1 files but
the quality its worse.
i suggest insert the efects with UVS but encode with TMPGEnc.

UVS have not sissors you can make severals files with each section
ut its hardest.
and more space it's needed..

hi iam a newbie ,iam using ulead vs to capture my home video from sony mini dv and edit it with some transition effects and title but now i want to encode it to mpeg 1(since ulead encoding is not good )using tmpgenc ,how to encode it with effects?pls help me

[Mirror_Image]

[quote="crajshree"]

now i want to encode it to mpeg 1(since ulead encoding is not good )using tmpgenc ,how to encode it with effects?

You can't, unless you encode first with UVS6 then re-encode in TMPGEnc.