Easiest way to turn down a vobs bitrate?

[Faustus]

Whats the easiest way to turn down a vobs bit rate? Can it be done without pulling the vob apart into 2 files?

And if you must pull it apart then how do you put them back together?

I have a disk that won't fit on my DVD-R but just by a little, and I'm willing to lose quality to make it fit.

[musicnyman]

you can't just turn down the bitrate on already encoded VOB files. you'd have to use IFOEDIT to take out things you don't need, or split the DVD into two DVDR's using IFOEDIT as well. the only way you can turn down the bitrate on the VOB files is to re-encode it.

[teddy107]

yap..correct. But I use Ifoedit alot and sometimes already stripped VOB file is too large for DVD-R. A DVD-R can take 4.33G only not 4.75G. I dont want to encode the movie because it lose the quality. I am pretty sure if the movie is less than 89 minutes you can fit into one DVD-R. However, above 89 min, most movie I ripped wont fit on DVD-R. Hope more improvements will make it available in the future.

[musicnyman]

yup, most movies, you won't be able to just "strip" non-needed files to fit on one dvd-r. you'd have to sacrifice getting a double sided dvd-r to split the movie including all the menus to two dvd-r using IFOEDIT. or reconding the dvd to a lower bitrate, but that takes a long time and yes, you'd lose a little quality of course.

[Faustus]

Actually I'm quite sure its possible to reencode them as I've hard of people doing it before, thats why I originally posted this in the conversion group because technically it is a conversion question, but they moved it... oh well.

I was just wondering if there is a tool that will let me reencode the video of an entire movie slightly down so it can fit.

[AND1]

I fit an 123 min movie on a DVD-R after I stripped the useless streams.

[mboynton]

as far as the total mins go into figuring out if it will fit is useless since every original dvd is encoded at different bit rates which in turn leads to larger or smaller files ie one 100min movie might fit while another may not. as far as reencoding the files use something like vobedit or smartripper to split the vobs. I use smartripper to do the movie file while i use vob edit to split any additional vobs from the disk as i dont know how to make smartripper stream process anything other than the main movie file. You can then rencode the m2v file and then use tmpeg to remux the files back together, or if your using spruce up to author just name your ac3 and m2v files the same and spruce up will automatically remux them for you. Hope this helps.