using d2v to add chapters to audio and video

[zzyzx2]

I am using a program to create audio dvds to play in my truck dvd player. It creates a simple menu with a list of tracks and each track shows the song name.

I wanted to add my own video and or pictures to the songs so I decided to demux and found a weird problem.

The audio is around 40 hours long, which was normal, but the video is only a few minutes long. Basically what happened is every song has 1 frame of video. ( I thought I would have had 40 hours of video, and ind since they are only stills, the quality would be ok).

So I can easily edit the video so I have a different picture for each song. so here is my question.

I have a 40 minute song with 3 minutes of video, and the only thing telling the dvd what to do is the d2v with the chapter info. How can I mux this all together to make it play like the original?

[manono]

I wanted to add my own video and or pictures to the songs so I decided to demux and found a weird problem.

You don't need to demux.

I have a 40 minute song with 3 minutes of video, and the only thing telling the dvd what to do is the d2v with the chapter info.

The D2V? No, the D2V doesn't tell the DVD anything as it's a project file created by DGIndex. That information is in the IFOs.

Anyway, what you want to do is easy. Open the DVD in VobBlanker. Highlight the VTS with your music so it appears in the lower window. Highlight it in the lower window and hit the 'Cells' Button to the right. In the new 'Cells in Title' screen highlight the first cell and hit 'Still' to the right. In the new 'Motion2Still in Titles' screen hit the 'BMP' button and scroll to the DVD compliant BMP you made. When done hit 'OK'. Do that for each of the cells for which you're changing the picture. When all finished hit 'Apply', and back in the main screen give it an 'Output Folder' and hit 'Process'. Test before burning back to disc.

[zzyzx2]

Thanks for the reply. They sure arn't making it easy for me are they. In this scenario, I would have to create a new BMP for around 450 different song titles. This would take me days to produce.

In Adobe premiere I took the same 3 minutes of video with around 460 frames and quickly moved the song titles, add new pictures to the bottom, resize and add a few effects within about a half hour. I would just need to mux it. Are you sure there isn't a way I could put the audio and my video back together?

[manono]

In this scenario, I would have to create a new BMP for around 450 different song titles. This would take me days to produce.

I thought that's what you wanted - to replace the current cell pictures with new ones.

In Adobe premiere I took the same 3 minutes of video with around 460 frames and quickly moved the song titles, add new pictures to the bottom, resize and add a few effects within about a half hour. I would just need to mux it. Are you sure there isn't a way I could put the audio and my video back together?

Sure there is, but just how large is the video you made? And does it last the length of all the songs together? If yes, then just mux it with Muxman and replace it into the original DVD. Except it doesn't work that way and the video you made is way shorter than the sum total of all the songs and if you made a real video lasting the length of all the songs the total size with any kind of decent quality would make the DVD way too large. You had 460 frames of pictures but you didn't make 460 new pictures to replace them (if each frame was a different picture)? That's the impression I got from the first post.

[DB83]

I suspect that this is NOT a standard dvd which prevents normal demuxing - no DVD could hold 40 hours of video.

What you probably have is something like an mp3 disk.

Might help us if you mentioned what program you are using to make this.

BTW I fail to see the point in adding video if you are going to play this in your 'truck'

[zzyzx2]

Well yes and no. I want a different picture for each song, not a specific pic, just random by importing into photoshop and setting the time for each pic to 1 frame. I also move the title of each song to the top and middle of the screen., do a fade and so forth. (just a little editing). With your method, it would quite peachy if I only had to change a dozen BMPs...but 400, geeez.

The output from Adobe premiere is the exact same lenght as the video demuxed from the original vobs, but as the original the video and audio lenghts differ by about 40 hours. If the audio and video were the same lenght, I wouldn't even be here asking. It would have been done already :P


@DB83. Seems you answered as I was still replying. This is not an mp3 disc, it is definitely a DVD. Your right, no dvd could hold 40 hours of video, but I explained what was happening in my first post.

As for the program, I really don't think it matters since I am simply trying to demux, edit, and put it back together.

The point of having "video" is to see the tracks on my 7" display on my radio. Again, I explained this in my first post.

41:35 of audio
3:51 of video as stills (1 still per Frame of video is 1 song)

[manono]

If the audio and video were the same lenght, I wouldn't even be here asking. It would have been done already :P

Hehe, not with 40 hours of encoded video, it wouldn't.

The only way it can be modified without starting all over is as I described (as far as I know). You can always go back to the program you used to create it in the first place, but I don't guess that would be any easier. I'm inclined to think this isn't worth it unless there's some way in ... What is it? ... Adobe Premiere, to tell it how long each frame is to be displayed.

[zzyzx2]

Ok thanks for the help though. I have been trying to find a way to at least edit the text so it displays better. This would solve my problem halfway, but still no fix for that either.

I am surprised there are NO other audio dvd programs out there.

[Cornucopia]

I suspect that this is NOT a standard dvd which prevents normal demuxing - no DVD could hold 40 hours of video.

What you probably have is something like an mp3 disk.

Might help us if you mentioned what program you are using to make this.

BTW I fail to see the point in adding video if you are going to play this in your 'truck'

DB83, I'm surprised at you! Of course a DVD can hold 40 hours. It'll look like CRAP, but it can hold it. 7.95GiB / 40 hours = ~460kbps (that's the combined bitrate - you'd have to use mono ac3 at 64kbps & video at 396kbps). If you used VCD-sized video (352x240), and reduced the color palette and possibly lowered the effective FPS (not real FPS), it could certainly be done. Doubt anyone would want to do it, but I don't see at all why it wouldn't be possible. I'd do it myself as a test, but I just don't want to use up that much time.

My guess is that this is either a DVD-Video with an MPEG still muxed into the audio or a DVD-Audio format disc (similarly with MPEG still & audio) Would help if you showed us a text layout of your disc contents...

Scott

[DB83]

I'll wager my last shilling that this is not dvd-audo - that is a totally different beast.

My guess is it is one of those audio disks made by a suite such as Nero or Roxio which inports the content from an audio CD or 10 and spits out a dvd. It will look like an ordininary dvd-video - will have all the right files - and will play in a standard dvd player but all you have is a menu or a single image against each track. Actual moving filum is a non-starter with this sort of disk.

[Cornucopia]

I agree about using motion. Waste of bitrate for audio-centric, mobile applications.

Could be DVD-Audio, I know of a number of automotive devices that do use that. But I expect you're right on this one. DVD-Video from some Nero-style app, using MPEGstills+Audio.

Scott

[zzyzx2]

using MPEGstills+Audio

That's pretty much what it is, with a dvd (video_ts) format.

So what other program can do this, and hopefully display the track name.

[manono]

I am surprised there are NO other audio dvd programs out there.

Well, there's Audio DVD Creator which creates the same kind of a DVD you have now. It costs a little bit of money. Since you have to provide all the assets (music, pictures) I don't see how it'll be any easier than my suggestion earlier.

There's also the freeware DVD Audio Tools which creates a DVD-Audio disc most regular DVD players won't play.

[zzyzx2]

Audio DVD creator is the one I've been using. Great program, but it could use a few tweaks. Hence me wanting to demux and redo some of the video portion.

Why me God...Why me???

[manono]

Don't roll your eyes at me. This is the first time you've mentioned the program used, in spite of DB83 asking you earlier.

[DB83]

The Roxio Suite can do this - display the tracknames.

Did this once for my dad. The interface is really clumsy and you can easily get the whole thing wrong.

You must first rip the CD to your HD to allow the tracknames to be downloaded in the usual way. You can then import the whole CD folder to the program.

Of course this is not free.

[zzyzx2]

I still cant believe that i can't mux this together the same way the the author of audio DVD Creator.

[manono]

I still cant believe that i can't mux this together the same way the the author of audio DVD Creator.

You can, but you won't want to. That's why there are programs to make it easier for you. Even the free Muxman can do it. But demuxing the M2V from the DVD is useless to you because there are no instructions for how long each individual M2V frame is supposed to play.

Using Muxman, load all the BMPs of all the pictures, one after the other, and then set each one for how long you want it to play (the length of the song with which it's associated). Add the audio and author. Piece of cake.

If you're saying Audio DVD Creator muxed it using something like the three minute video you extracted, then guess again.

[zzyzx2]

I'm going to make a small audio dvd later today and upload it for you guys to see it.

EDIT:

Ok I quickly made one. demux and compare audio/video.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/exdqpz

[Cornucopia]

OK, I finally DL'd the discimage you posted.

You should stop calling it an AudioDVD, as it isn't. If it were, most if not ALL of the assets would be in the AUDIO_TS folder. It is just a Music-based DVD-Video. Using MPEGStills+Audio.

If you want to create MPEG Stills, you'll have to look up my old threads that guide you through it. It also makes sense to use SVCDStl, an app that patches the MPEG video/still stream after it's been muxed with the audio into the MPEG-PS so that it is clear to players that it is a Stills stream and not a normal Video stream. Lots of hard work just to get custom pix...

Scott

[zzyzx2]

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You should stop calling it an AudioDVD, as it isn't.

just calling it what the program is called

I found a way to do almost everything I want it to do. The saved file is all normal text, and in there they have a catergory for a picture. In the GUI it lets you have a picture for every title, but the save file you can add every chapter. I gathered up a crapload of pics, renamed them 001,002,003 etc and then in the savefile just added the path and 001,002,003 etc.

When I load this in the GUI it doesnt show different pics in the preview screen, but when the dvd is burned I do in fact have a different pictures every song.

I will take a look at your goodies there after work and see what that's all about.

Thanks for the info.