TMPEG WHICH ONE?

[Hitmandj]

hi every one which tmpeg do u feel gives the nest quilty mepg, please include the new PlUS version or any new version coming soon or any betas,.

I am not sure which one to use as there two many, but quailty will be my first choice.

[BerrantRyke]

I like the new TMPGnc Plus version from the offical website. I think that the new 2 pass VBR gives better quality than the old method. I plan to do a few moe films this week, but from the couple I have done already, it simply kicks butt! Heck, I might even register it !

[tigervideo]

Hitmandj,

take a look at this. it may give you some ideas.

[BerrantRyke]

Good article, but I do MEPG-1 @ 340x240 with variable 2pass bitrates varying by the length of the feature.

I dont mess with MPEG2 much.. Just my two cents. Try several programs and methods, then use what you like the best

[SatStorm]

I have many objections on this.....

First of all, this is NOT a full fair test.
It is just a comparision of a specific resolution and specific codex (MJPEG) between those versions.

There are many more things to test before state any conclusions.

First of all, there are many output resolutions out there, all standards:
CCIR 601, D1, D2, D4, SVCD....
The results ain't the same with those two versions. It is true, that 12a is better for CCIR 601 output. You can read in the history of tmpgenc plus that versions 2.50 and after, are bugfixes in this issue. So, that is not a secret.
But for 480 X 576 or D2 resolution, the new 2.53 plus version is much better. And that happens, because basicly, the new tmpgenc versions are more focusing on SVCD/CVD creation, than VCD or DVD one.
VCD quality remains the same the last 10 versions (exept the speed) and DVD encoding ain't really good yet. Maybe, tsunami waits DVD video become mainstream before implement his encoder for this resolutions.
let me also tell you that when DVD Video turns mainstream, I bet that most of people gonna work with D2 resolution, not with D1.... Having 4 - 5 Hours per DVD-R with identical on most TV Sets/videoprojectors picture is better than having 2 hours per disc, as DVD VIdeo D1 resolution commands.
If you don't believe me, just look around: Most users want to fit the most on a disc, not the more quality in the disc. There gonna be users than gonna put on DVD-R even VCD files. I am sure for this

Also, the source counts at any test.
Our hobby ain't only avi/divx/asf. It is also dvb, dvd-video, don't mention the differences between avis...
It might that some formats ain't supported enough with the new tmpgenc plus. Don't forget that the future ain't avi/divx/asf. It is DVB/s/t/c ...
Also, it is common sectret that Mjpeg use to be a good codex to feed with avis CCE, not TMPGenc... For TMPGenc, it is always the second alternative...
A avi codex remains a compressed avi, even if it is excellent. In a way, using mjpeg/huffy/etc, and then encode with tmpg/cce/flask/etc it is more a re-encoding than a "true" encoding!
Only poor uncompressed avi is a "true" avi. Don't forget that...

Anyway, back to our subject:
Try encode DVB transmissions with TMPGenc 12a....
Try encode to CVD (352 X 576) with TMPGenc 12a...
Try to encode low bitrate/resolution mpeg 2 VBR with TMPGenc 12a....
Then encode the same same source with TMPGenc 2.53plus
We talking for mpeg 2 with 2 pass VBR here...

Then judge.....

I've done it and I state the follow:
The new 2.53 plus version, is better than ever for anything, except CIRR - 601 encoding... If you want to create SVCD of VCD, then 2.53 plus is the way to go.

Many US users have different opinion. That means that there must be something with them and the new tmpgenc plus versions. I suspect that this has to do with NTSC. Maybe new versions are more PAL friendly? I don't know. I simply know that my XSVCD with the new versions are way better version 12, 12a and 12h (which was one of the best earlier versions)

Also, let me remind you that 12a ain't good for 2 Pass VBR. The best VBR use to be with version 12. Then it cames that buggy 2.52 and now that excellent 2.53 plus...

There are many parameters to talk about here, but I have to go home now.

[Boooooommm]

Well, I've been using TMPGEnc for a long time now, and I must say the latest version gives quite nice quality. Specially with the 2 pass VBR. I encoded an MPEG-1 video file from a DVD Rip avi with an average bitrate of 1400kbps, (Not much, but quality was damn nice) a max of 3,000kbps and a minimum of 300kbps, and I must say, I was amazed at the color and sharpness in the file. So get a hold of the latest version. By the way, PLUS version is just the trial without the 30 day limit. So, the trial should work nicely for you