Ripped DVD output issues.

[rooshooter]

I shooting video On a Canon XL2 @ with a frame rate 30. Covering a local dance competitions. I'm shooting tape and also DVD back-up with a Sony Direct burn.

I had a tape error and now and ripping the routine I need from the DVD. With Wondershare DVD Ripper.

The video looks and plays fine on my screen. However when I output from Final Cut Express the video doesn't seem to have the right frame rate. any motion from dancers results in tracers or ghosting of moving arms/legs.

I'm fairly certain it is a frame rate issue I tried everything to make them look nice and smooth but I'm not a video professional just a guy hired to run the camera and edit the dances..

Any advice or help would be appreciated.
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[redwudz]

You might try MediaInfo to check the framerate on the original video and the processed video. What that looks like is interlaced video shown on a progressive monitor, IE, a computer monitor. A interlaced TV or monitor shouldn't show those interlace artifacts. But you could also have a problem with frame rate conversion.

Wondershare has spammed our site heavily in the past, so it is not popular here. I would try another program that might work better than their software. Lots of decent freeware DVD rippers out there. If the video isn't encrypted, you don't even need a decrypter, just copy it to your hard drive.

And you would get better responses if you posted some of that problem video. We have a 30MB size restriction, but even a few seconds may be very helpful.

And you should mention up front that you are using a Mac. We have a different forum for that. I can move this thread if needed.

And welcome to our forums.

[rooshooter]

Thanks, for the advice. I'm new to all of this, as I'm sure you can tell. I had thought the problem was interlacing as well, the horizontal "lines" do disappear when viewed on my TV monitor but the double image is the real problem. each dancer has 4 legs and 4 arms (or more the faster they move)

I understand Wondershare has a bad rep. unfortunately for me That's what the BOSS bought cause it was $24.00... Do you have one that maybe you could recommend?
All the DVDs are DVDs I've created so they should have NO encryption.

Thanks again for your help. How do I post to the MAC threads? I'll post there and ad a video clip.

[redwudz]

I'll move this thread to the Mac forum where you may get some more specific suggestions.

redwudz

[terryj]

Here's what I would do if i were you:

1. I'd get a copy of MpegStreamclip ( free) with the QT Mpeg-2 add on ( not free, $20).
Install all of the two pieces of software.

2. Insert the DVD into my Mac.

3. Open the DVD using the "Open DVD" command from within MpegStreamclip.
Select the proper Video Track.

4. With the DVD open you can then play it back as necessary, to determine that playback is satisfactory.
then, cut the Scene you need using MpegStreamclip ( I suggest In/Out points), and then export that
to DV Stream (NTSC).

5. Close MpegStreamclip, open Final Cut Express.

6. Open the exported DV Stream file in FCE, and playback the file once ingested. Everything look good?
great...finish your edits, fine tuning as necessary.

[rumplestiltskin]

What will be the final output? DVD? Video file on a computer?

[intracube]

The video looks and plays fine on my screen. However when I output from Final Cut Express the video doesn't seem to have the right frame rate. any motion from dancers results in tracers or ghosting of moving arms/legs.

Your original video is interlaced.

It could be that Final Cut Express isn't flagging the exported video as interlaced. Additionally, the field order might be reversed. If the field order is reversed, the video would judder/stutter when viewed on a TV, but possibly not on your computer screen (depends what software you're using to play the video).

If you open one of the files from Final Cut Express with mediainfo, select View>Text, and copy/paste the text here to help confirm whether the file is flagged as interlaced/progressive.

Also, why are you backing up the videos to a 'DVD-Video' disc? Doing it this way means the footage is being re-encoded to a (relatively) low bitrate stream - and that's likely to give a noticeable drop in quality compared to the original files.

It would be better to burn the original DV files from the XL2 straight to a DVD data disc. That would preserve the original quality (although you wouldn't be able to store as many minutes of footage per disc this way). You also wouldn't need to use Wondershare DVD Ripper to get the footage back onto your computer.

[rumplestiltskin]

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{snip}...Also, why are you backing up the videos to a 'DVD-Video' disc? Doing it this way means the footage is being re-encoded to a (relatively) low bitrate stream - and that's likely to give a noticeable drop in quality compared to the original files.

It would be better to burn the original DV files from the XL2 straight to a DVD data disc. That would preserve the original quality (although you wouldn't be able to store as many minutes of footage per disc this way). You also wouldn't need to use Wondershare DVD Ripper to get the footage back onto your computer.

Amen. Maybe a spare hard drive of, oh, 2TB? Copy the project files over (along with the DV footage). One thing to remember, though, is that setting I/O points when you import your footage limits you to that footage only. IOW, nothing outside of those I/O points will be backed up (which may or may not be important to you). With HDs so cheap these days, I tend to copy everything over and later, when I have some spare time, I might cull out some junk. But my time is more valuable than cheap HDs so I usually end up keeping everything until, like milk, it has passed it use-by date.

[intracube]

Also, why are you backing up the videos to a 'DVD-Video' disc? Doing it this way means the footage is being re-encoded to a (relatively) low bitrate stream - and that's likely to give a noticeable drop in quality compared to the original files.

It would be better to burn the original DV files from the XL2 straight to a DVD data disc. That would preserve the original quality (although you wouldn't be able to store as many minutes of footage per disc this way). You also wouldn't need to use Wondershare DVD Ripper to get the footage back onto your computer.

Amen. Maybe a spare hard drive of, oh, 2TB? Copy the project files over (along with the DV footage)... ...my time is more valuable than cheap HDs

D'oh! I don't know why I didn't suggest an external hard drive... That's exactly what I'm using to back up/archive my own video/media files.

Amazon lists 2TB drives for £55-£65. A 2TB drive would store over 150 hours of DV footage.