Best Ripbot Settings for mp4 Blu Ray @ 12000Kbps

[sam103329]

Hello

I have been doing my blu ray collection so I can add it to my media center system.

I have found a happy set of conversion settings that allows for adequate file size and keeps the quality as close to raw as possible.

Currently I use the settings of 2 pass @ 12000Kbps and the [High 4.0] setting with trelis quant set to enhanced.

Other than this nothing else is changed. The quality is almost perfect and conversions are taking around 5 hours per film.

I am having a slight issue with judder for example when the camera is panning in a film it just seems to judder a little bit but doesn't do so on the blu ray its self.

I have read maybe increasing B frames and R frames will reduce this however I am not sure at all and any help any one can give would be great.

if there is anything I can do also to enhance the quality of the conversions dont hesitate to let me know however the main issue currently is the slight judder every so often.

I dont think its anything to do with the computer struggling as although it is using 100% when in use it is a 8 thread i7 @ 3.7Ghz

I have also considered using RD Refine on all frames however is this worth while and is there anything else or an ideal setting under encoder settings on rib bot when lets say max file size is 15gb with average file size of around 12-13gb

Thanks in advance for any help you can offer

[Baldrick]

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[sam103329]

I am very sorry indeed I will try and remove it now, I saw the forum after leaving the message

ahh sorry I just ready your Message Fully, thank you for removing it for me, once again my apologies.

Sam

[deadrats]

Hello

I have been doing my blu ray collection so I can add it to my media center system.

I have found a happy set of conversion settings that allows for adequate file size and keeps the quality as close to raw as possible.

Currently I use the settings of 2 pass @ 12000Kbps and the [High 4.0] setting with trelis quant set to enhanced.

Other than this nothing else is changed. The quality is almost perfect and conversions are taking around 5 hours per film.

I am having a slight issue with judder for example when the camera is panning in a film it just seems to judder a little bit but doesn't do so on the blu ray its self.

I have read maybe increasing B frames and R frames will reduce this however I am not sure at all and any help any one can give would be great.

if there is anything I can do also to enhance the quality of the conversions dont hesitate to let me know however the main issue currently is the slight judder every so often.

I dont think its anything to do with the computer struggling as although it is using 100% when in use it is a 8 thread i7 @ 3.7Ghz

I have also considered using RD Refine on all frames however is this worth while and is there anything else or an ideal setting under encoder settings on rib bot when lets say max file size is 15gb with average file size of around 12-13gb

Thanks in advance for any help you can offer

i'm going to help you but not in the way you were hoping: STOP DOING WHAT YOU"RE DOING!!!

why, oh why, would you take a BD and transcode it down to a lesser bit rate? just so you can add it to a media center system?

here's a pro tip for you: a stand alone blu ray player can be had for as little as $70:

http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0339433

you can rent a blu-ray for $1.50 from netflix at any of their kiosks that they have (i see them all the time in front of 7-11's and supermarkets), is it really that much trouble to pop a blu-ray into a player, hit the button and watch the movie? do you really need to spend 5+ hours per movie transcoding it for storage in a media center, with inadequate results mind you?

maybe it's time to rethink your approach.

[sam103329]

Hello

Thanks for getting back to me, I am wanting to store my blu rays somewhere else as they take up so so much space so having it all on my media server which is on 24/7 anyway is the plan.

the quality does remain almost identical to the blu ray and I m rendering on my main system anyway which is on 24/7 also so its no worry time wise really. however the only issue is the slight Judder in panning frames but it is more than bearable as its minor however If i can easily get rid of it that would be great

and we dont have netflix over here lol unfortunately you are lucky !

we are talking quite a lot of films here and we stream them down to 360s in separate rooms using the media center so that we can all watch different things off the server without having to get off the sofa and it means we dont need a blu ray player in each room then just a 360 which can be used to play games as well (dont say buy a ps3 lol) , I have been doing it for a while now its just recently started noticing the judder on the pacific HBO series every so often

Thank you very much for the help though, it is appreciated. do you have any idea about the judder situation while we are here?

[deadrats]

Thank you very much for the help though, it is appreciated. do you have any idea about the judder situation while we are here?

i actually have seen transcodes where you end up with a "judder", i wouldn't increase the number of b frames or reference frames, i would do the exact opposite: try a test encode with 2 b frames and 1 reference frame and perhaps use CALVC instead of CABAC, disable trellis, basically make it easier to decompress the video stream.

[sam103329]

Thanks for the help

I will give one a shot without trelis quant and with the lower R and B frames and report back tomorrow

just out of interest so i can have a better understanding of what effect changing each thing has

• what is the effect of trellis quant
• what is the effect of Changing the R and B Frames
• Should Adaptive B Frames be off, on standard, or enhanced
• would RD Refine on all frames increase the video quality
• which ME algorithm is best
• Where would I disable CALVC and CABAC in RipBot

Thanks again for helping me, your the only one lol

[deadrats]

Thanks for the help

I will give one a shot without trelis quant and with the lower R and B frames and report back tomorrow

just out of interest so i can have a better understanding of what effect changing each thing has

• what is the effect of trellis quant
• what is the effect of Changing the R and B Frames
• Should Adaptive B Frames be off, on standard, or enhanced
• would RD Refine on all frames increase the video quality
• which ME algorithm is best
• Where would I disable CALVC and CABAC in RipBot

Thanks again for helping me, your the only one lol

first things first, this is your friend:

http://mewiki.project357.com/wiki/X264_Settings

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trellis_quantization

what you call an "r" frame is really b frame used as a reference by other frames

as for the rest, may i make a suggestion? you will drive yourself crazy trying to figure out what each and every single option in x264 does, the truth is that it's way over engineered, with more options than most users should have to worry about.

i don't know specifically where the calvc/cabac option is in ripbot because i'm a media coder guy.

i would just use one of the presets to configure the encoder, perhaps "fast" or "faster" but with calvc instead of cabac, cabac is more efficient and reduces the amount of bit rate needed by about 20% but you're using a high bit rate anyway so that's not an issue in your case and calvc is easier to decode and if you're playing the files back on 360's, you're not talking about a powerhouse.

basically all the options you asked about relate to improving encoding efficiency, specifically reducing the amount of bit rate needed by making more efficient use of the bit rate allocated. the downside is that all these options increase encoding time and decoding workload, so since you're using enough bit rate, make it as easy as possible to encode and decode the stream.

[Megahurts]

With Tsmuxer, save the part of the original file that has the judder problem with the 'split & cut' tab and remux to a small m2ts file.

You can experiment and see the results in minutes rather than several hours.

[sam103329]

Hello Again

I have given it a shot at R2B3 however I seem to receive the same results, I have not however tried it without Trellis quant, Will this not reduce the quality of the conversion though.

[sam103329]

Seem to have the problem sorted ish

1 last questions I have tried 1,1 r b frames is this too low or should it remain at 3,3, it simply looks the same as 33 and decreases conversion time

Is 1 reference and 1 b frame ok >?

AND MEGAHURTS THANK YOU !!!!!!!!!! YOU SAVED ME LIKE A MILLION HOURS RECOMMENDING TSMUXER