I knpw how to make VCD with like-DVD menu

[Condor]

If you want how to do it, you can download
www.elko.cz/download/like-DVD.rar

[M_immenses]

anyone tried this out yet?

[Panash]

Wow!

10 out of 10 and five gold stars for this one, both the software and the write up. Kicks Nero into touch - I shall never use Nero for authoring S/VCDs again. Relativly easy method, amazingly flexible. Just needs a little more support for some more of the keys on the DVD remote (like "up" & "down" for example).

With a little ingenuity, There is the potential to do really deep nested or scrolling menus.

Also gives proper support to FF/rev & scan.

My recommendation is that the write up be posted in VCD Help!

I took a lot of time in Paint Shop Pro, there must be a better program for adding text to .bmp. Its only limited by your artistic creativity and the time you are prepared to put into preparation.

I probably won't bother to do much editing in future, simply chop the mpg up into small segments and menu the items in.

PN

[vitualis]

Just needs a little more support for some more of the keys on the DVD remote (like "up" & "down" for example).

Not possible.

S/VCDs only support the following definable key presses: prev, next, default, return, and the numerical key presses (1-99).

Furthermore, the above method is a poor way of making menus on VCDs. You will get much better quality and much better resolution (704x480/576) by using MPEG still images on your VCDs for menus: http://www.geocities.com/medinotes/vcd/mpeg_still_images.html

Furthermore, be aware that your images will get cropped by some degree on the TV. You should always leave about a 10% margin and as a minimum about 5%. This phenomenon among others is discussed in the above link.

Regards.

[Panash]

Pity. but my enthusiasm stays unaltered.

Good website, Virtualis, a stepping stone that helped me get up the learning curve.

PN

[vitualis]

Pity. but my enthusiasm stays unaltered.

Great!

Just letting people know that there are much better ways of achieving what is in that PDF file...

Regards.

[Panash]

What is the difference between any arbitary video clip and an MPEG still

from your web page, the recepie calls for

"menu.mpg (20 second video clip that is an animated menu) "

presumably this is a 704 by 576 (or whatever) ".bmp" that has been encoded using TMPGEnc with a bit of silence or music (to taste).

Its not clear to me how your web stuff fundementally differs, apart from the easy to use wrapper suggested in the ".pdf". I can see that once one is familiar with scripting languages, they can be more powerful. I'd be interested to know the super-set of commands that XML supports that the ".pdf" doesn't describe and isn't supported by VCDEasy.

PN

[Panash]

Unfortunately no cigar on this one - yet.

The VCDeasy wrapper seems to be working but there is now a loss of A/V sync. Is this a problem with VCDImager?

I'm capturing MPEG2 using a PV256 SM2210 based card and I am not aware of loss of sync using Nero. The lip sync error smacks you in the face with VCDImager.

Any ideas? Presumably there is a process of inserting scan and offset data into the video stream. The MPEG2 files from the PV256 are sufficiently complient for Nero to produce a SVCD without re-mux-ing with TMPGenc. Its just the menu software is so primitive,

PN

[vitualis]

What is the difference between any arbitary video clip and an MPEG still

from your web page, the recepie calls for

"menu.mpg (20 second video clip that is an animated menu) "

presumably this is a 704 by 576 (or whatever) ".bmp" that has been encoded using TMPGEnc with a bit of silence or music (to taste).

A video clip is exactly that -- a video clip. Video on a VCD must be either in 352x240 for NTSC or 352x288 in PAL. For that particular example, I was using a video clip as the menu (and hence animated menu).

A high resolution MPEG still is just that too. There is only one frame for the picture, and it is encoded as an MPEG I-frame (similar to JPEG). For VCD, this is in 704x480 for NTSC and 704x576 in PAL.

Its not clear to me how your web stuff fundementally differs, apart from the easy to use wrapper suggested in the ".pdf". I can see that once one is familiar with scripting languages, they can be more powerful. I'd be interested to know the super-set of commands that XML supports that the ".pdf" doesn't describe and isn't supported by VCDEasy.

The PDF is using a short video clip for still menus. This is a poor way of making a still menu as you are not only limited to a resolution of 352x240/288, you also have poorer quality as you are limited to a bitrate of 1150 kbit/s.

VCDs allow the use of high resolution still images. A 704x480/576 still image looks greatly superior to a low res. video clip.

Regards.

[Panash]

I still can't work out how one goes from a .bmp to an MPEG still.

Will TMPGenc produce a single frame I MPEG clip? How?
VCDImager complains with video clips less than 5s.
PN

[Puneet]

If you know ULEAD's DVD Moviefactory also does it more professionally.

[vitualis]

I still can't work out how one goes from a .bmp to an MPEG still.

TMPGEnc can't create MPEG stills.

Follow the link I gave before and there is a link from that site to mikk's guide that describes how to make MPEG stills with VCD Toolkit.

As for Ulead DVD Moviefactory:
1. It is not open source
2. It is not free
3. It is not as flexible as VCDImager

Regards.

[arcorob]

Okay, I give up.....what is an RAR type file ? What good was downloading an unknowknown file type ????/ What am I missing,....Thanks

[kwantum]

you are missing a brain you dumb shit

If you can't stop yourself from posting mindless bashing, then you are well on the way to getting banned. -- vitualis

[arcorob]

That was real helpful. I'd ask you for advice on that but you would never hear the request with your head so far up you a$$.

This is a forum for questions not assine remarks...

[kwantum]

assine is not a word.
www.winace.com

[Puneet]

Well, can it do the following:

In one big MPEG file, can u make menu selections so that u can go to a specified location in that file (without pressing FWD) OR in another way, does ur guide support VCD chapter entrypoints.
Ulead DVD Moviefactory does it

[vitualis]

Well, can it do the following:

In one big MPEG file, can u make menu selections so that u can go to a specified location in that file (without pressing FWD) OR in another way, does ur guide support VCD chapter entrypoints.
Ulead DVD Moviefactory does it

Entrypoint type chapters? I was using VCDImager to make such VCDs long before Ulead DVD Moviefactory came out...

I described the theory and the practice of making such a disc here:
http://www.geocities.com/medinotes/vcd/chapters.html
http://www.vcdimager.org/guides/chapters.html (mirror)

The GUIs TSCV and VCD Easy can both use VCDImager to automate the creation of chapters and may be a good way of starting for the beginner.

Regards.

[Puneet]

But the guides you linked to Micheal Tam are really hard I believe. Do u must know the XML-type structure. If yes, then I think its better to get Ulead although it might not be that flexible but certainly, its got some excellent professional looking menus and awesome backgrounds.

[dfgh11]

I think I must side with the guy above. Your website doesn't really cater for the beginner or dumbass. Which is a shame because I'd love to be able to make VCD's the way described on your webpage, and not just that but actually understand the code too.

rambling now, this post was more or less about nothing, sorry for wasting everyones time.

[vitualis]

The site wasn't aimed at the beginner or the novice, but the enthusiast (read the home page). However, it describes in detail the theory on how chapters work on VCDs at all (for whatever authoring program you are using) and the limitations.

As stated before, VCD Easy and TSCV which are GUIs for VCDImager can do all the hard work for you in terms of coding the XML for chapters.

There are guides on how to use them even on VCDHelp (e.g., check out Sefy's newbie guides).

If you are happy with Ulead then that's fine with you. However, if something is buggy, or you can't get the chapters working right (search the forums and you will find examples) or you want to author your own content and interactivity, you are very limited.

Regards.